Draco and Sirius(Was: A Good Slytherin? )

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No: HPFGUIDX 74734

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "RP" <rlai1977 at y...> wrote:


> Many seem to parallel Draco with Sirius, concluding that Draco 
either 
> would break away from his evil parents like Sirius did, or he won't 
> because he is not a "good" person like Sirius who made the "right" 
> choice. I strongly disagree.
> 
> Both Draco and Sirius are rather amoral, they are kind only to 
those 
> who they love or identify with, and can be cruel and without 
empathy 
> toward everyone else. 

I think that's a rather sweeping statement.  Do you have evidence of 
Sirius being uniformly unkind to everyone other than his friends?  
Snape and Kreacher certainly were not on Sirius' list of favorite 
people, but how does this translate to "kind only to those they love 
or identify with"?


> Sirius apparently, has always hated his family, period. 

Funny, I can't find any evidence in my book that, oh, say, five-year-
old Sirius hated his family, period.  Sixteen-year-old Sirius left 
because he'd "had enough."  I agree, that whatever happened built up 
over a number of years, and was not a sudden epiphany, but again, 
saying that Sirius hated his family all of his life is a stretch.

If he had any love for his parents and 
> brother, and if their attitude towards muggle-borns was indeed the 
> main reason he could not stand them, then he would have tried to 
> persuade them to change their view.

How do you know he didn't try?  Maybe he did consistently try after 
being exposed to non-pure bloods at Hogwarts and all he got in return 
was screaming abuse from his parents.

 And if he could not make them 
> change their prejudice, he would oppose this particular stance of 
> theirs but still cares for them. But I didn't pick up any sign that 
> Sirius had much feelings about his family, other than loathing.

I don't agree that one necessarily still loves family members in 
spite of everything.  We don't know the dynamics of the family 
situation.  Maybe Sirius did indeed hate his entire family from the 
time he became a toddler.  Or maybe he got tired and finally angry 
with being treated like dirt because he had ideas that Mummy and 
Daddy didn't agree with. Sometimes, love dies.

> I am not saying Sirius was "wrong" in that sense, just saying he is 
> thus very very different from Draco who apparently cares deeply 
about 
> his parents. 

But, then again, they all seem to have the same ideas about family 
and blood and society.  Draco has never butted heads with Lucius 
about the core of the Malfoy family values.

There is NO reason for Draco to break away from his 
> family the way Sirius did. Even if Draco does one day realize how 
> wrong his parents are (which I doubt), he still would not be the 
> second Sirius.

> Who I think Sirius paralleled was Barty Jr, who hated his father 
> thoroughly too -- the big difference was that Sirius left his 
family 
> to join the "light" side, while Barty Jr rebelled against his dad 
by 
> join rank with Voldermort. And who would Draco parallel if he ever 
> ditches his own family for his own good? Percy Weasley! 
> 
> "RP"

That's an intriguing parallel.  But, I can't see Draco leaving the 
bosom of Family Malfoy unless he's going someplace equally as exalted 
in terms of money and position.  Althought people can always surprise 
you...maybe Draco will wake up one day and decide to go be a starving 
artist ;-)

Marianne