SHIP: Re: Harry, Hermione & Ron

[greatelderone]

No: HPFGUIDX 74759

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "C M" <cmurph18 at y...> wrote:
> True, but the placement of "Hermione looked simply furious..." 
> comes after the Ron kiss. If JKR had wanted to indicate that she 
was 
> furious about the Harry kiss, or just the kissing in general, 
> wouldn't it have made more sense to place the line earlier? Maybe 
add 
> a little to it to make it clearer that that's what she was furious 
> about?

GEO:Haven't you thought the whole purpose of that line was to muddy 
the waters for the shippers. If she clarified the thing then she 
would have given away her hand. If anything the R/H and H/H ships all 
hinge on Hermione's feelings on that matter.


> And if her "dangerously" flashing eyes are any indication, she 
> was pretty pissed about it. 

GEO:Possibly because Ron can't believe that a bookworm like Hermione 
would be able to get a date.

> It's the strength of Hermione's emotions 
> in these exchanges with Ron that seem suggestive to me. If she's 
not 
> remotely interested in him, why would she care so much that it had 
> taken him so long to "spot" that she's a girl?

GEO: As others have noted Ron and Harry are the only close friends 
that she has and make up two thirds of the trio. Even if she isn't 
interested in him she would be at least be pissed off that it took 
him three and a half years to notice that she was a girl considering 
that she has spent so much time with them


> I'm trying, but I can't really think of any evidence to suggest 
> that they're "perceptive of this kind of stuff." The two of them 
are 
> so very involved with they're own "stuff" that I doubt they'd 
notice 
> any sparks developing between people around them. Do they even 
date? 
> We know Fred took Angelina to the Yule Ball, but were they in a 
> relationship afterwards? Not that we heard of. I'm beginning to 
> suspect that the Weasley boys, as a rule, are "late bloomers" when 
it 
> comes to the world of love and dating.

GEO: However they are perceptive. Well perceptive enough to pick up 
that something was going on with Percy in CoS even though they didn't 
have extendable ears or their apparition ability and the fact that 
Percy had his own owl and isolated himself from the other.
 
> And we have no evidence that Viktor's a "fighter of evils." 

GEO: I never said he was, but that he was a dark and certainly 
brooding quidditch seeker like Harry. 

> Lockhart was a superficial, school-girl crush on 
> a celebrity 

GEO: Whose main claim to fame was fighting the dark forces just like 
Harry. 
 

> My personal 
> feeling is that the frown was showing concern, due to her insight 
> into Cho's fragile emotional state.

GEO: It still wouldn't explain her impatience in wanting to know if 
Harry was going to go out with her(Cho) and her(Hermione) attempt 
subsequently at maintaining a more distant demeanor indicates to me 
at least that she had a more emotional connection in the business 
than we had previously thought.
 

> Right. It could also be the basis for a relationship later in 
> life between Hermione and Ron.

GEO: Doubt it. If anything the Hermione and Ron relationship is built 
more on the traditional way which is giving perfume and being jealous 
kind of thing with all their mutual spats.


> Yes, because we're all completely threatened basketcases who 
> can't stand the idea of "our" men having friendships with women. 
> Thanks for that generalization. I'll be sure to let all my friends 
> who are self-assured and secure in their relationships know that 
> they're doing it wrong.

GEO: Either way the same would also occur vice versa. I doubt any 
permanent love interest of hers would take it very well that she was 
more devoted to her best male friend than to them.