Snape Respects Harry Now

subrosax99 subrosax at earthlink.net
Fri Aug 1 22:47:25 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 74765

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "frumenta" <p_yanna at h...> wrote:
> 
> I can't pretend to remember who said what in this thread but how 
> about we look at the lessons themselves and Snape's interraction 
> with Harry, shall we?
> 
> People said that Snape didn't tell Harry what he should do:
> 
> 'And what are you going to do?' Harry asked, eyeing Snape's wand 
> apprehensively.
>     'I am about to attempt to break into your mind,' said Snape 
> softly. 'We are going to see how well you resist. I have been told 
> that you have already shown aptitude at resisting the Imperius 
> Curse. You will find that similar powers are needed for this . . . 
> brace yourself, now. Legilimens!'
> 
> p.471, UK edition
> 
> Snape is not trying to teach this thing to just anyone, he's 
> teaching a kid who is able to resist the Imperius curse! No one 
told 
> Harry what to do then, he found the strength within himself and did 
> it! Why must we insist that Snape should do more to "teach" Harry 
in 
> the traditional sense of the word? Occlumency is not your typical 
> subject. He told Harry what to do, on this and on other occasions 
> and Harry just kept arguing with him and being disrespectful.
> 
> Then we have Snape seeing the first batch of memories of Harry's, 
> among which a rather embarrassing memory for Harry, Cho's kiss, 
> which was what prompted him to react. Now, where it comes to 
Harry's 
> love life, Snape gleefully read the Prophet article on it in his 
> entire class in GoF. The rest of the memories are also potentially 
> embarrassing (cat Hermione? Harry as a Slytherin?) but Snape 
doesn't 
> comment on any of them. All he does talk about to let Harry know he 
> did actually see into his memories is the dog.
> 
> And then we have the second attempt, in which since Harry has 
failed 
> to get rid of his emotions, Snape picks up some rather unpleasant 
> memories including Cedric's death (which seem to upset Snape 
himself 
> considering he is "paler than usual" after seeing them). Read the 
> exchange! (containing the now famous pot calling kettle black 
speech 
> of Snape's about weak people that are easily provoked). Harry 
> challenges Snape every step of the way and Snape simply tells Harry 
> what to do without punishing him for his insolence.
> 
> In the following lesson, Snape discovers that Harry has still been 
> having dreams about Voldemort but didn't bother to tell him. Snape 
> tries to get Harry off the idea that he's special and that it's up 
> to him to find out what Voldemort is up to. And when Harry tells 
him 
> that that's "That's your job, isn't it?" Harry himself realising 
> that he may have gone too far, Snape simply gives him a straight 
> answer about it. And then Harry breaks into Snape's memories and 
> even though Snape is obviously not too happy about that, there is 
no 
> petty punishment, on the contrary, Snape tellls him that "this was 
> certainly an improvement".
> 
> End of this scene and we don't know what may have happened as Harry 
> is once more disrespectful and basically calls Snape a Death Eater 
> to his face.
> 
> Well, call me crazy but I saw a definite change for the better in 
> Snape's manner towards Harry during the lessons.

Can I get an Amen?! I do not understand why people keep complaining 
that Snape didn't try hard enough teaching Harry occlumency! What 
more was he supposed to do? Hold Harry's hand and give him a lollipop 
at the end of every lesson? As a teacher, Snape is no barrel of 
monkeys, but all things considered, I thought he was downright 
congenial.
Sure, Snape hated Harry from the word go, but since then, Harry 
hasn't done much to endear himself. If Snape can read minds, imagine 
what he's been seeing in Harry's busy little head for the past five 
years; "I hate Snape", "Snape is trying to kill me", "check out his 
greasy hair and yellow teeth", "Snape is a closeted Death Eater", "I 
hate Potions", and "I think, instead of going to an adult about this 
problem, I'll just put on this invisibility cloak and break hundreds 
of school rules." No wonder Snape hates him!

Allyson





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