[HPforGrownups] Re: Hermione's rude comment (slang and stuff)(longish aga...
IAmLordCassandra at aol.com
IAmLordCassandra at aol.com
Sat Aug 2 03:54:30 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 74806
In a message dated 8/1/2003 11:48:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
miss_dumblydore at yahoo.com writes:
Heather:
> Only started following this thread about two posts
> ago, so sorry if someone already made this argument-
>
> I *do* think that Hermione's remark was pretty
> derogatory- not sure if I'd call it racist
> (speciesist?) and I truly doubt she meant it in a
> hurtful way; I just think it was an incredibly stupid
> comment.
>
> severus_book4
> > IMOO I think that this is just a remark, not racist
> > in the least.
> > She just doen't like horses. I don't own a dog, but
> > I own a cat,
> > does this make me racist? No, I just like cats more
> > than dogs.
>
> Of course there's nothing wrong with her not liking
> horses (don't like them myself), and there's also
> nothing wrong with this dislike being the reason that
> she doesn't find Firenze physically attractive. But
> Firenze ISN'T a horse, and looking somewhat like one
> doesn't mean anything- would you call a human that you
> found unattractive a monkey (however accurate the
> comparison my be)? She could have said, "No I don't
> find him attractive" and left it at that.
> Honestly, what bothered me most about it was how
> hypocritical it was. Here's a girl who goes ballistic
> anytime someone treats a house elf *the way the house
> elf WANTS to be treated* (Dobby notwithstanding, of
> course). Yet she can turn around and say nearly the
> most insulting thing there is to say about a species
> so proud that it will kill anyone "arrogant" enough to
> merely ask for its help? Strange. Perhaps her goal is
> simply to piss off every non-human on earth :)
>
> Just my two knuts :)
>
Cassie: I also just picked up this thread...but I agree with Heather (and
anyone who feels the same). I haven't watched it in a long time...but I seem to
remember in Planet of the Apes (at least the new version) where the apes good
really POed when they were called monkeys. I think being called a 'horse' is
an insult to Centaurs. I think at one point one of the Centaurs insults
Firenze by calling him a common mule...or something.
~Cassie~
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