JKR and reusing names (was: Augustus)

susanbones2003 rdas at facstaff.wisc.edu
Tue Aug 5 22:46:38 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 75563

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "psychic_serpent" 
<psychic_serpent at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "susannacedric" 
> <susannacedric at p...> wrote:
> Did anyone else notice there were two characters (albeit both minor 
> characters) named Augustus in OOP-Augustus Rookwood-DE and Augustus 
> Pye-Trainee Healer.  I didn't think JKR ever reused names.  I can't 
> think of any other characters that have the same first names.  Am I 
> forgetting some?  Is there any significance to this, or am I just 
> being overly analytical.
> 
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "arioth1" <arioth at p...> wrote:
> There are two named Tom aswell. Tom Riddle and the barman in the 
> Leaky Cauldron.
> 
> Me:
> 
> Actually, the usual way in which she reuses names is by going the 
> father/son route.  We had two Tom Riddles, one a Muggle father and 
> one an evil spawn of a son; we had two Barty Crouches, each one 
more 
> vile than the last, and Harry himself bears his father's first name 
> as his middle name, as we finally have confirmed when he has his 
> trial in OotP.  Frankly, I'm surprised that we don't see more names 
> reused in this manner in the HP books, but authors have a certain 
> amount of control over their worlds to avoid this when it would be 
> undesirable (although I've seen authors of books that aren't 
fantasy 
> use this for good comic effect when walking into a pre-school 
> classroom and discovering that all of the children are named either 
> Brandon or Brittany <g>).
> 
> JKR also stated that she didn't want to give her son, who was named 
> David Gordon Rowling Murray, a name she'd used in any of the books 
> (or intended to use) but she did anyway, and not great names, from 
> the perspective of how they appear in the HP series.  Gordon, for a 
> start, is the name of one of Dudley's thug friends.  We don't see 
> anyone named "David" exactly, but a nickname, Davey, does appear.  
> We're told that Davey Gudgeon was hit rather violently by the 
> Whomping Willow (I'm trying to remember properly, but I think 
> something awful happened, like one of his eyes being put out).  And 
> as for reusing names, Davey happens to have the same last name as 
> Gladys Gudgeon, Gilderoy Lockhart's biggest fan (even after he's 
> been in hospital for several years, as we learn in OotP).  If Davey 
> is related to Gladys (and I think it's a pretty good bet he is), 
the 
> Gudgeon family aren't exactly shaping up to look like geniuses, are 
> they?  Evidently JKR forgot about poor Davey when naming her son.
> 
> --Barb
> 
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