HRH and their Prefect badges

[C M]

No: HPFGUIDX 75606

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Rebecca Stephens 
<rsteph1981 at y...> wrote:
>>>It's the forgetting to show them to their dorms I was calling 
[Ron] on.<<<

Me: Are you calling Hermione on it as well? Because she didn't seem 
to remember that they were supposed to do that until Dumbledore had 
dismissed them and they were getting to their feet. That surprised 
me, actually. Given the way she is, I would've expected her to spend 
the whole dinner trying to plan things out with Ron (much to his 
irritation, natch). I just assumed that the Sorting Hat's new song 
and Umbridge's speech threw everybody off their game.


>>>Rebecca: I'm sorry, but if what Fred and George were doing by 
testing the fainting things one the first years wasn't against the 
rules, it should have been.  The first years didn't know what the 
effect of them was. I can't say anything for the later ones, as the 
first years seemed to know what was going on then.<<<

Me: But we *don't know* that it was against the rules. Just because 
you want it to be doesn't make it so (and doesn't make it fair to 
expect Ron to stop it). It would be one thing to slip something to an 
unwitting person (like what Harry and Ron did to Crabbe and Goyle in 
CoS), but the First Years willingly took F&G's products. And as far 
as not knowing the effects, that was the assumption Harry made; as 
far as I know, we never found out for sure whether it was true.


>>>Rebecca: Nope.  As I've said time and time again, it's making the 
attempt that counts.  It's one thing to be unable to do something; 
there's no shame in that.  But to not try to do your job?  That's 
different.<<<

Me: Well, he started to get up that first night in the common room, 
then sat down when he was satisfied that Hermione had things under 
control. And I seem to recall that one of the times he did yell at  
them for misbehaving, he ended up with a snowball in his face.

Did Percy ever assert any authority over them in the first three 
books? I honestly can't remember.

CM