SHIP: Harry and Cho

jenny_ravenclaw meboriqua at aol.com
Wed Aug 6 23:16:31 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 75721

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "feetmadeofclay" 
<feetmadeofclay at y...> wrote:

> Harry is under stress and has had what would be taumantic 
experience, but as m.steinberger pointed out the natural reaction to 
this is not to behave like a pissy suburban teen.  I'd feel sorry for 
Harry, but he's doing a fine job of that on his own. He doesn't need 
my help.
> 
I don't mind it so long as Rowling doesn't let him off on the crime of 
hurting Cho.  But she does. She'd give just that explanation. And 
frankly I don't buy it one bit.  There is no excuse for treating 
others badly.  Harry of the first book knew this.  He would have 
condemed and hated Harry in book5 for being mean.>

I say:
I think one of the problems here is that we all see things differently 
when it comes to Cho and Harry.  I don't think Harry's behavior was so 
bad or inexcusable.  I think he was nervous because the girl he had a 
crush on seemed to like him back.  God, I remember being almost 
nauseous when the boy I liked at 15 was nice to me for five minutes.  
Harry has had virtually no experience with girls and doesn't really 
know how to behave appropriately.  It must have been particularly hard 
for him when she kept crying around him and wanting to talk about 
Cedric.  If the man I wanted to be with experienced a trauma like 
that, I wouldn't bother him about it unless he brought it up, but 
these are two teens who are realistically more concerned with their 
own agendas than with others. 
 
>Loyalty can be a weakness when it substitutes for personal thought.  
But I can't say I think standing by her friend is a hanging offence.  
Afterall Cho didn't participate in the betrayal.  All she did was 
excuse it.  Much like you excuse Harry's behaviour. Marietta was 
scared and weak. Most people are.  But to paraphrase my favourite 
movie... Harry will never be a great person till he has some 
understanding and acceptance of human failure.>

Me:
Cho's loyalties were unacceptable to Harry, and that is okay.  This 
was the moment between the two of them when they both realized it was 
never going to work.  Harry's priority is fighting Voldemort and his 
followers and I don't blame him for brushing her off after that.  
Marietta can shove it too for all I care.  Sometimes relationships 
reach a wall that can't be climbed (I am speaking from experience 
here) and it's time to move on.   

>(Unless you can somehow show me Harry is so messed up that treating 
Cho like an object is somehow part of an overarching psychological 
malady over which he has no control>

Moi:
I don't think Harry treated Cho like an object any more than she 
treated him like one.  I think they simply should never have dated.  
It was doomed from day one.  Doomed, I say!

--jenny from ravenclaw *********





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