Inheritance & other thoughts

mtwelovett mbush at lainc.com
Thu Aug 7 15:00:27 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 75857

Much Snippage of Mtwelovett & B Arrowsmith (Kneasy)

Kneasy wrote:
> 
> At the end of PS, Hagrid says that he sent messages round to friends of 
> James and Lily asking for photographs. So far we've met just*one* who 
> was in a position to reply - Lupin. Sirius was in Azkaban, Pettigrew 
> was rodentially occupied and the Longbottoms (presuming they were 
> friends, which is reasonable), were in St Mungos. Who were the  others 
> and are they going to sneak up on us?
> 
> Theoretically, any parent of children around Harry's age could qualify; 
> the Diggorys, the Lovegoods etc.

Well, photos could prusumably come from any member of the order (or
others) which would include, Dumbledore, McGonnagal, Neville's Gran
probably has Frank and Alice's "stuff" so would be capable of
providing photos for Harry, Mrs Figg keeps photos we know, so she
could have provided some as well. (Maybe wizards in Photos disguise
themselves as Cats in Photos when they can't be revealed... only
joking really), Maybe Pettigrew's mum is still alive and she had some
from when little Peter was at school with his chums. Also there is
Deadleus Diggle who keeps poppping up and is a member of the "old
crowd" and we haven't seen a lot of action from him.... and as you
say, there were other wizards of their year that could come into play
as well. 


 There are also two other characters 
> that could re-appear who fit the age bracket:-
> 1. Lockhart. I've a feeling we're not finished with him - selfish, 
> manipulative, currently mentally incompetent but recovering.
> 2. Bagman. Another dubious type, linked to James through Quidditch.
> Could make some lovely plot lines with these,  but it's a bit late in 
> the series. They'll be back, I don't doubt, but not in this role.

Agreed since, Lockheart being the git that he is, would probably have
said something about James (probably not in the most favorable light)
being at school with him while he was DADA professor (probably during
one of those little chats he had with Harry but trying to show himself
in a much better light than James... "Oh yes, I played Quidditch with
your father, he 'assisted' me in winning the Cup." or whatever) 

> 
> Now, Mark Evans. I'm suspicious. Evans isn't an uncommon name and JKR 
> admitted in the Paxman interview that there were red herrings in OoP. 
> I'd put him at the top of the fishy list. Remember Hagrid in the Hut on 
> the Rock? He implied that the automatic protective magic that Harry had 
> as a child is not unusual; that it showed he was a wizard. Neville 
> showed it too. If Mark Evans was a wizard, I don't think Dudders  
> *could* beat him up.

VERY good point, but I wouldn't write him off just yet. Definate
"Fishy List" though. 

The thing about the "protective magic", is that we don't know that
Dudly for example can't touch Harry at all, in fact quite the
opposite. We clearly know that Harry was used as a punching bag for
Dudley, (look in early chapters of OOP, where they are talking about
Dudley's new found sport, as well as in SS) and if these magical
incidents were "all the time" people including Dudley would be much
more suspicious of Harry than they are, especially if Dudley couldn't
lay a finger on him.. he'd be much differnt towards Harry even by the
time time they were 10. It seems to be a protection that comes out at
times in perhaps more extreme circumstances. We aren't getting any
details of the Mark Evans bullying session, so all we know is they
tried, and possibly did manage to get a punch or two in, the real
question would be what would happen if they tried again? Maybe they
did and he "escaped" by jumping to the roof or something similar,
knowing the danger this time, but still not knowing how he did
it...like Harry.. his incident at school was the whole gang, and not
just Dudley. 


> 
> For guardianship, the absolutely *key* question - who gave Hagrid the 
> key to Harrys' vault? DD is the likeliest suspect. But it's odd that 
> he's never suggested Harry visit Godrics Hollow, or even mentioned it 
> by name, so far as I can recall.

Well, if Godric's Holow is not near Hogwarts, nor is it near the
Dursley's it may very well be too dangerous for Harry to "visit"
since, especially now, it is a spot for Voldie to watch knowing Harry
may return there and would be an "easy target". No Petunia protection,
no Dumbledore/Hogwarts protection. I do think Dumbledore is likeliest
 source for the key, and Hagrid had another errand at Gringotts for
Dumbledore that day as well. We don't know what all that note to
Gryphook (is that the right one? or is that the one that took them to
the vault?) said either, and it may not have solely been about the stone. 

> 
> There's always the possibility that Godrics Hollow was not the Potters 
> home, but a safe house, a hide-out, a bit like Grimmauld Place. 

I always read Godrics Hollow as a town not the name of a cottage or
house. So even if you know the Potters are in Goderics Hollow, you may
not be able to find their specific house without the "permission" from
the secret keeper(or however that works because that does raise
questions about who knew who the secret keeper was, unless you can
still know where it was if you knew where it was before the charm was
cast. Like if Dumbledore picked out the house for them or something,
would he still know where it was once the charm had been done?) But
does that mean they were shut up like the Franks and so many other
jews in Natzi times, or are they free to move about but not be found
by the Death Eaters and Voldermort? And we still don't really know why
Voldie was after the Potters in the first place sice they have
"fought" (not the prophacy word) him three times before the prophacy
even came into being. ... Dumbledore did NOT tell all, but we already
knew that. 

I still think Dumbledore holds the *key* in more ways than one... 

Mtwelovett







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