[HPforGrownups] Re: Who's going to betray the Order?

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No: HPFGUIDX 75903

At 02:03 PM 8/7/2003, you wrote:
>To: HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: Who's going to betray the Order?
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>--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "fire_fly107"
><fire_fly107 at h...> wrote:
> > I guess I'm just wondering what the suspicious details at the end
>of
> > PoA were.
>
>Lupin has been a werewolf his entire life.  HOW could he have
>forgotten to take the potion on this very critical night?  The guy
>has to have the lunar calendar emblazed on his memory.  Then he
>starts TALKING ABOUT THE POTION to Harry & co while they are down in
>the shack, and he never says "shoot!  I forgot to take my potion!"
>Then Snape SHOWS UP AND REMINDS HIM he hasn't taken the potion, and
>still it doesn't sink in.  Instead, Lupin volunteers to be the one
>they chain Peter to, which is a VERY stupid idea.

Actually, there's a number of completely reasonable explanations for all of 
this. Rowling herself said the moon wasn't out when Lupin entered the 
tunnel. Then there's the fact that Lupin's dead best friend's son is 
chasing a convicted killer. I think I'd hustle too, quite frankly. It 
doesn't sink in because it's not dark out and because there was an 
emergency. Mistake? Certainly. Evil? No indication of that. He volunteers 
because he is an adult. Simple.


 >>Then there is all that nonsense with the dementors: why do they show
 >>up EXACTLY after Lupin leaves?  And when they DO show up, why do they
 >>try to kill Harry?  The simplest answer is that Lupin told them to.

I'm confused, where and when in PoA does Lupin tell the dementors to attack 
Harry?! Weren't they already there chasing down Black? They went after 
Sirius too. No need for Lupin to beckon them. It was also explained earlier 
in the text that the dementors were getting hungry. I just don't recall 
anything in the text suggesting Lupin was ordering the dementors around. 
Maybe I missed something. It seems a stretch given that the scene was laid 
out again with the Time Turner. Neither Harry nor Hermione see Lupin 
talking to dementors before going down in the tunnel, or after.

 >What I meant was that IF I'm correct and Lupin IS evil, then why did
 >he prevent Harry from crossing the veil?  It's a bit of a problem
 >with the ESE!Lupin theory, and it has a few explanations, but I've
 >never found any of them very convincing.

To save him for Voldemort? But he didn't know Voldemort was coming, and how 
would he get Harry to Voldie without the entire Order knowing? The DEs were 
trapped and Bellatrix ran. He didn't know Harry wouldn't die if he crossed 
the Veil. What if he was trying to protect Harry because he cares about 
him? That's the most reasonable explanation with the most support that I've 
heard. If someone's betraying the Order, it's not Lupin. Rowling is not 
going to make the victim of discrimination and prejudice evil. Like another 
poster said, it would almost be justifying the bigotry. It's also 
contrived. We've already got an "evil" former friend. I'm not sure there is 
even a spy in the Order. It just seems formulai...wait, Hedwig perhaps? :-)
Erin