Tactics & Prescience

lunalovegoodrules darkthirty at shaw.ca
Fri Aug 8 03:32:52 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 75987

> dan:
> That Dumbledore is famous for his defeat of the dark wizard 
> Grindelwald is not because he's on a chocolate frog card, rather, 
> he's on a chocolate frog card because he's famous, and he became 
> famous by his deeds vs Grindelwald becoming known to everyone. In 
the 
> books, this being known to everyone has involved wizard papers. My 
> point, however, was clearly that Dumbledore's defeat of Grindelwald 
> might mean something in regards to Voldemort and Tom Riddle. How 
did 
> he defeat Grindelwald? Was it connected in some way to Riddle, 
etc... 
> 
> Dan (a different one):
> I think it was connected to Hitler, if anything. Note that 
Grindelwald was defeated the same year as the end of WWII (according 
to the Lexicon, anyways), which is the same year the Riddle 
graduates. Connection? Oh yes, oh yes.

Dan, I am fully with you on this, my very first post to the group 
alluded to the association between the ww and the rw - the strength 
of that connection regarding Grindelwald is the name itself, the year 
of his defeat, obviously, and the fact that Harry knew this very 
early on in his ww experiences. Also, Riddle's connection with 
Grindelwald could have been around the time of the first opening of 
the chamber, either before (he got help from Grindelwald or from 
chessmaster dumbledore) or after... I assume before, of course. The 
point is, the more I think about it, the more it becomes evident that 
perhaps Dumbledore's defeat of Grindelwald in some way compromises 
his relationship to Tom Riddle (and Lord Voldemort) and Harry Potter, 
and maybe the current head of Slytherin :)

dan (PS Dan, use dan, not Dan, to identify me, or call me dan of BIC 
LIGHTER)





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