Tactics & Prescience

[Geoff Bannister]

No: HPFGUIDX 76023

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "KathyK" <zanelupin at y...> wrote:
> 
> > > Dan:
> > > > Well, it would seem to me we need to know a little more about 
> how 
> > > > Dumbledore "defeated" Grindelwald. If that is what he is most 
> > > famous 
> > > > for (thanks to the Quibbler?), if that is why Voldemort fears 
> > him, 
> > > > then Harry's next question should be, and one of his previous 
> > > > questions should have been, "what did you do?" 
> > > 
> > > Me:
> > > How does the Grindlewald defeat fit in with the Quibbler? The 
> > > reference I recall to this defeat was from the Chocolate Frog 
> card 
> > > which Harry had on the train in PS.
> > > 
> > > Geoff
> > 
> > That Dumbledore is famous for his defeat of the dark wizard 
> > Grindelwald is not because he's on a chocolate frog card, rather, 
> > he's on a chocolate frog card because he's famous, and he became 
> > famous by his deeds vs Grindelwald becoming known to everyone. In 
> the 
> > books, this being known to everyone has involved wizard papers. 
My 
> > point, however, was clearly that Dumbledore's defeat of 
Grindelwald 
> > might mean something in regards to Voldemort and Tom Riddle. How 
> did 
> > he defeat Grindelwald? Was it connected in some way to Riddle, 
> etc... 
> > 
> > I frankly don't understand what you are questioning. I said his 
> fame 
> > might have been spread through the quibbler, as a newspaper. It's 
> not 
> > a theory.
> > 
> > dan
> 
> KathyK (butting in):
> I know I'm not involved at all in the above, but as I've nothing 
> better to do, I thought I'd just give my take of this small  
> misunderstanding above.  Dan was, as he states above, wondering if 
> maybe Dumbledore's defeat of Grindelwald was spread through the 
> Quibbler.  Geoff interpreted Dan's phrase "(thanks to the 
Quibbler?)" 
> as getting information about the defeat of Grindelwald from the 
> Quibbler.  Thus his reply that it appeared on the chocolate frog 
> card.  I don't think he was saying that Dumbledore got famous 
because 
> of his mention on the card.
> 
> In relation to this thread, I agree that Grindelwald (and his 
defeat 
> at the hands of Dumbledore) have something to do with Voldemort.  I 
> have no ideas on how they're related, though, so I'll stop there.


Geoff:
That was indeed my point. I don't  recall the Quibbler mentioning 
Grindelwald - mark you, I might have overlooked the item although I 
seem to recall that the only place the magazine is quoted verbatim at 
any length is on the train to Hogwarts. Dan's reference to the 
magazine in this instance rather threw my thinking off course.My 
comment was meant to be the same, ie that DD is on the card because 
he's famous.