[HPforGrownups] Re: Is Ginny's Sudden Personality Change Believeable?

[Rebecca Stephens]

No: HPFGUIDX 76150


--- feetmadeofclay <feetmadeofclay at yahoo.ca> wrote:

> GOLLY:  I think that it depends on how involved she
> was with Michael. 
> I suspect he was cute and he liked her and she
> wanted to get over 
> Harry and he was as good as anything.  She liked
> being admired. But 
> she doesn't even see him on the train (or at least
> not for long).  
> The first thing Percy does after spending all summer
> writing to Penny 
> is go and see her. He's excited and anxious.  Ginny
> doesn't seem too 
> ramped up to see her boyfriend after time apart.
> (Partly this is 
> evocative and partly just unrealistic)  

That's interesting.  I hadn't really thought to
compare it to Percy.  Percy/Penny was definitely a far
more emotionally involved relationship.

 
> The less involved you are emotionally, the easier it
> is to break up.  
> Still I would have liked ot have seen her go through
> some pain after 
> her break up.  Getting over him quickly isn't that
> hard if she isn't 
> that in love with him. But still she's be at least
> in a funk for bit. 

Why?  She dumped him, right?  I mean she dumped him
because he was a brat about the quiddich match. 
Obviously no deep emotions running there.

 
> What I dislike most is that Ginny hid the
> relationship from her 
> brothers and MOST IMPORTANTLY Harry!  A proud girl
> who has been 
> denied the dignity of having her crush either return
> the feelings or 
> at least not know them, would want to reclaim said
> dignity.  (NOt 
> that I am bashing Ginny. I just think liking Harry
> and having him not 
> like her back would have wounded her pride like any
> girl's).  
> 

No.  She didn't hide her relationship.  Percy hid his
relationship.  Hermione knew.  Ron and Harry just
weren't paying attention.  It never occured to Ron (or
F&G, for my opinion) that Ginny could be a desireable
prospect as a girlfriend.  

She didn't tell them (but who would with Fred and
George for brothers?) but she didn't hide anything.


> So after deciding that Michael was a sure bet, Ginny
> would make it 
> very clear to both her brothers and Harry that she
> was dating 
> someone.  And Hogwarts is not a big school. Michael
> is in F&G's 
> grade - word gets around.  Neither would have any
> reason to keep it a 
> secret. 


Whoa!  I don't think Ginny just picked a "sure bet"
and went out with him to make anyone jealous.  She
liked him.  She went out with him.  When didn't like
him anymore (ie, he annoyed her about the quiddich)
she broke up with him.  This relationship was not
about Harry or her brothers.  She liked a guy - that's
all.

And I believe Michael was in Harry's year, not Fred's.
 He was haging with Terry Boot anyway, who I know is
in Harry's year. 


> In short we should have known in GOF.  No girl in
> her situation would 
> want or need to keep Michael a secret.  And Rowling
> shows this by 
> having Hermione just inform the gang (and us).  At
> the very least we 
> should have seen in GoF something like "Harry
> noticed Hermione 
> chatting with Ginny before a boy Harry didn't
> recognize lead Ginny 
> away and Hermione ........" 
> 
> Something anything...
> 
> 
> 
> Golly
> 
> 


I disagree.  She wasn't keeping the relationship
secret. If she had been, she'd have been mad at
Hermione for breaking her trust.  It's not that she
kept is a secret, it just that Ron and Harry didn't
know.  Hermione mentioned it off-handedly.  On page
349 (U.S. - last page of "In the Hog's Head" Hermione
said that Ginny thought Ron would take it badly, and
that's why she didn't tell Ron.  She didn't want him
hassling her or her boyfriend.

I'm not sure if we have solid proof F&G didn't know.
Though I don't think they did, because they'd have
been very vocal.

But when the gossip would have been going around (when
they first started dating) Fred and George were a
little preoccupied with trying to get their money out
of Bagman.


Rebecca 

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