good!Slyth/3sistersAge/Luna:likeDD/Salazar/SecretKeeper/Bode/Lit/Flat/b-beer

[Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)]

No: HPFGUIDX 76425

Nemi wrote in 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/75409 :

<< Danger Mouse wrote: << I am sure we will, eventually, see a 
Slytherin student who secretly goes to Harry and whispers, "Potter, 
I'm with you." >>
Oh wow that's a great image. And slipping into his hand a slip of 
paper with names on it, or plans, or even a warning. >>

What would it take to get Harry to trust a Slytherin? As he is now, 
he would stubbornly assume that the Slytherin was luring him into 
some kind of trap, by giving him false information.

Ariadne Majic wrote in 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/75495 :

<< I believe in genealogy tables, children are listed left to right 
by oldest to youngest. Andromeda's burn mark on the tapestry was 
between Bellatrix and Narcissa. It says, "He (Sirius) pointed to a 
small burn mark between two names, Bellatrix and Narcissa." Assuming 
Sirius was reading left to right, then Bellatrix would be the oldest. 
>>

I don't think Andromeda *can* be younger than Bellatrix. Because 
Bellatrix is in the same year at Hogwarts as Snape, MWPP, and Lily, 
who were born 1957-60 and therefore were 23 to 19 years old when 
Harry was born in 1980. Andromeda is Tonks's mother and Tonks is 6 to 
8  years older than Harry (because she had finished sixth and seventh 
year at Hogwarts and four years of Auror training when Harry hadn't 
started fifth year yet). So if Andromeda were the same age as 
Bellatrix (let alone younger!) she would have been like 14 years old 
when Tonks was born.

The Black family tapestry might list children in the opposite 
sequence that Muggles do (it would hate to do the same as Muggles!) 
so that Narcissa is oldest, then Andromeda, then Bellatrix ... would 
that make Narcissa older than Lucius?

Erin wrote in 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/75644 :

<< Luna even reminds me of Dumbledore a bit. She's, um, "unique" and 
has sort of a quiet wisdom. >>

Do people think that Dumbledore was like Luna when he was young? Up 
until meeting Luna, I thought that schoolboy Dumbledore was something 
like schoolboy James and Sirius, and he learned his eccentricity, 
calmness, and wisdom from long (and probably painful) experience.

Caipora wrote in 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/75754 :

<< Salazar Slitherin's first name is Iberian. Is he Basque? The 
founding of Hogwarts is about the time of the Song of Roland. Did 
Slitherin flee Spain just ahead of the invading Moors? >>

I have a long fanfic theory that Salazar went from Spain to Britain 
when they were both parts of the Roman Empire; he's about 600 years 
old at the time of the Founding (he had made (or stolen) a 
Philosopher's Stone) and had become bitter and nasty (and maybe evil) 
because of all the nasty history (fall of the Roman Empire, rise of 
the Dark Ages) that he lived through. 

Silmariel wrote in 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/75829 :

<< It can't be a Basque name. I don't live there, but I hear and 
read (not saying I understand) Basque enough to know there isn't a 
syllable in Salazar matching Basque >>

I'm having trouble finding a source to cite, but "Salazar" is 
supposed to mean "old hall" or "old palace" with "old" being the 
Basque word "zahar' or "zara' or something like that.

scooting2win wrote in 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/75824 :

<< Voldemort did go alone, because "he" was told where the "Potters" 
lived, and if he was told by Peter, which we know is true, then how 
did Hagrid and Dumbledore know where it was? If Peter told Dumbledore 
where the house was, then why did Sirius go to Azkaban? Dumbledore 
said that he had known that Sirius was the Secret Keeper that he did 
not know that they had switched. >>

OoP taught us more about how the Fidelius Charm works. When the 
Secret Keeper tells one person the secret, that person now knows the 
secret, but it is still hidden from all the people who haven't been 
told. So James and Lily would wanted certain people (Sirius, 
Dumbledore, Hagrid, maybe McGonagall, maybe Frank and Alice 
Longbottom) to know where they were hiding, maybe come visit them 
sometimes. So the Secret Keeper had to tell the secret to selected 
people real soon after the Charm was cast. Peter could tell Sirius 
in person, but he could write it in a note for Dumbledore, Hagrid, 
anyone else -- maybe he imitated Sirius's handwriting in the note, 
so they all thought it came from Sirius.

Caipora wrote in 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/76339 :

<< Rowling speaks Portuguese, in which "bode" is "goat". In Brazil 
"scapegoat" is "bode expiatório" (don't know about Portugual, which 
is JKR's variety). Bode is certainly sacrificed in the name of plot. 
>>

Oh, JKR must have loved that! Thus she packs multiple meanings into 
one name. For in English, "bode" means something like "to be an omen 
of", like "This bodes ill for our hero". When "Bode and Croaker, 
they're Unspeakables" were mentioned in GoF, my thought was that 
they were both fortune-tellers. Bode for the definition stated, and 
Croaker for "croaking" out warnings. I didn't yet pick up on "croak" 
as "to die" in that scene, but it has been pointed out on list.

Geoff wrote in 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/76390 :

<< than get involved in themes which mirror real life - family rows, 
affairs, terrorist violence etc. Escapist >>

The Potter oeuvre may be Escapism, but surely it DOES involved 
terrorist violence and family rows. (My own personal feeling is that 
JKR is disappointedd by people who still think the series is escapism 
after the end of GoF.) 

Arya wrote in 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/76415 :

<< I assumed that a 17 year old would get his first 'own place' as a 
flat or apartment. >>

That would surely be true for Muggles, but Sirius was a wizard. Does 
the wizarding world even *have* flats and apartments? But we do know 
(from Hagrid's example) that they do have one-room huts. I imagined 
him in a slightly larger small cottage, with separate kitchen, 
sitting/dining room, bedroom. 

Buttercup wrote in 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/76419 :

<< And what about butterbeer--letting kids drink an alcoholic 
at such a young age is a good way to start their lives of alcoholism. 
Imagine what Winky's liver looks like. >>

Someone else can argue that Jewish kids having at least four sips of 
wine each Passover does not turn them into alcoholics. I'm more 
interested in arguing that butterbeer is not alcoholic. Whatever the 
House Elves are getting drunk on is some ingredient other than 
alcohol, because of their non-human metabolism.