OoP - GUILTY Dumbledore (was Dumbledore's true sorrow motives)

agnesbrauner agnes_braunerhielm at hotmail.com
Sun Aug 10 23:13:59 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 76512

"--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "talisman22457" 
<talisman22457 at y...> wrote:
> 
>         1. Dumbledore doesn't neutralize Bellatrix;
>         2. JK is coy about where crucial jet came from;
>         3. If Sirius just stunned, does Dumbledore "float" him
>            through veil?;
>         4. Fast-draw Dumbledore doesn't try to save Sirius from 
>            falling through veil;
>         5. Dumbledore doesn't comfort Harry.
>         6. Dumbledore manages the LV scene in lobby;
>         7. Dumbledore knows LV going to possess Harry;
>         8. Dumbledore knows Sirius love/grief thought repels LV;
>         9. Dumbledore gets:
>                            a. special power activation;
>                            b. chosen one verification;
>                            c. Prophecy preparation;
>                            d. LV repellent;
>                            e. no sirius interference. 
> 
> 
> 
> Oh, yes. Sirius had to die.
DUMBLEDORE IS GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY!"


You guys, isn't this too much analyzing? Maybe that Sirius dies isn't 
DD's heartless, "noble" plan, but JKR's? SHE needed him to die to 
get "the power that Dark Lord has not" activated within Harry and all 
of the above (a-e) that Talisman wrote, so that her book series could 
go on ;). Maybe it was all just a "lucky coincidence" that all of 
that (a-e) happeded for Harry and DD when Sirius fell through the 
death viel. Because, if it in fact was DD's plan, would not he then 
had FAKE Sirius death instead of making sure he died? Neither Lupin, 
the rest of the Order nor DD is THAT cold-hearted, being able to KILL 
an order-member, even if it helps Harry to defeat LV. I mean, if DD 
would FAKE Sirius' death, would not that bring out "the power the 
Dark Lord has not" as well? Harry has no PROOF Sirius is dead, he 
just believes it because everyone else says it is so. Harry hasn't 
even asked what the veil was. (but I guess WE all have guessed now, 
based on the fact that the room was called the Death Chamber...) So, 
they could just as easaly have faked Sirius' death. But I don't think 
they have, but I don't think DD planned it either. Harry could just 
have continued with Occulmency lessons and developped LV repellent 
that way. And we all know he is the chosen one, don't we? (the night 
of the scar!)

So, I would be very surprised if JKR suddenly makes DD and Lupin(if 
he was the one to send the jet of light at Sirius as Kathy K suggests 
in post 76335) the Sirius-killers and they thereby become as cold-
hearted as Bellatrix. If DD killed Sirius and he simply looks upon as 
a LV-weapon... I think the books would lose some of their charm if it 
turned out that DD fibbeled with Harry's destiny like that.

/Agnes (who thinks JKR is GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY!) (But somewhere 
inside still thinks it was suspicious that DD did not stop Bella from 
fighting with Sirius and that he did not save Sirius from going 
through the veil...= can't wait until Book Six.)






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