Pensieve question...
meltowne
meltowne at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 12 18:08:43 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 76720
bibphile" <bibphile at y...> wrote:
Karen <ktd7 at y...> wrote:
In Snape's penseive, Harry saw
Snape following James & Co. He was concerned that Snape wouldn't
stay where he could see his father, but Snape stayed near them. It
appeared as though Snape was deliberately staying in viewing/hearing
range of the group
bibphile <bibphile at y...> :
I don't think Snape was within earshot of them...
He was within sight of them, but he was so absorbed in his exam
paper that I don't even know if he was aware of their presence until
they called out his "name."
ME:
It certainly looked like he was absorbed in the exam, but it's
possible he was pretending to be absorbed so they wouldn't notice
him - of if they did, they wouldn't know he was spying. This of
course would imply that he may have known more about Lupin's status
than he let on.
Karen:
If the penseive records memories from the user's perspective, can
those memories be trusted as fact, or are they tainted by the
user's own feelings?
Bibphile:
I don't think it does. If we were limited to what Snape couls see
and hear, we wouldn't know James was doodling "L.E." on his paper.
James was three aisle over from Snape. Snape certainly wasn't
looking on his paper.
ME:
Our brains "see" much more than we pay attention to. It is possible
that James was visible doing this in Snape's peripheral vision. His
brain recorded it, even if it didn't register. I view it much like
photographic memory. I knew someone in high school who truly had
photographic memory following a head injury. He had difficulty
studying/memorizing, but if he made sure he read everything relevant,
he could recall it an "reread" it from memory during his exams.
Karen:
If the penseive works like a video recorder, it would be a
convenient way to find out from any person whether they are
telling the truth about a given event without having to use a
veritas potion. If it is a video recorder, then why couldn't the
MoM use it with Harry to find out if Voldemort really returned or
not?
Bibphile:
They don't want the truth. They want comfortable lies.
ME:
I absolutely agree. Admitting the LV is back would require Fudge to
actively do something about it (but he has no idea what to do). By
not admitting it to the WW in general, he doesn't have to listen to
the Wizarding public compain that nothing is being done.
I view the pensieve as recording what that person *could* perceive if
they were paying attention to details. It might be much like using
only 1 sense rather 2 or 3 to experience something; much like a deep
gash in your leg hurting more once you see the blood.
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