The inner Snape (was:Re: Grey laundry - depression) longish
jwcpgh
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Wed Aug 13 13:21:29 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 76887
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "The Crashing Boar"
<crashing.boar at n...> wrote:
> If he was such an outsider or an outcast, there was no way he
could have been inducted into a group which was formed and operated
in secrecy and which therefore had to have at least a minimal level
of 'trust' between its members <snip> Most of the Order actively show
they are using him, don't like him, and are not his friends, so what
would be the attraction, if those were the reasons he decided to
betray LV and the DEs?
>
> As for his physical appearance, he has obviously put a lot of
effort into it. He no longer hunches or moves like a scuttling
spider, but protects himself with an intimidating stance, attitude
and way of dressing. <snip> >
> Dawn
Laura:
Ah, the ever-puzzling Severus. I agree that his behavior doesn't
look like depression, nor do I think it's any kind of sociopathic
syndrome. My guess is that his behavior is the adaptive strategy he
found would work best for someone in his position. Sometimes people
who have been deprived of a healthy emotional environment go looking
for the love they didn't get, and they become very social. And
sometimes it's the opposite. Snape has learned not to trust anyone
except himself. He arrived at Hogwarts already very familiar with
the dark arts, which he must have seen as the best self-protection
available. His relations with his fellow Slytherins couldn't really
be called friendship per se-more like an alliance based on a common
interest. You never get the idea that the gang with whom Snape hung
out in school went bowling together or whatever wizard kids do for
fun.
And I don't think the DEs had a social relationship either, so
whatever network Snape was part of after Hogwarts didn't provide any
emotional support for him. The secretive nature of the DEs would
just reinforce his trust-no-one-but-himself strategy.
Dawn's point about SS creating his teacher persona is a very good
one. He may not be liked (I wonder if even Draco really *likes* him)
but he's damn well feared. No one's going to mess with this guy ever
again. Of course, no one's going to invite him over for tea,
either.
Now Snape is playing the double-agent game, and that can't be good
for his self-esteem, whatever he has of it. If you've ever read
Graham Greene or John LeCarre, you learn that spies don't think much
of themselves because they know that they are professional betrayers,
even if it's for a good cause. (Whether this is true in real life, I
don't know, but that seems to be the literary convention.) And if
you're a double agent, you must have incredible inner confusion about
what it is you believe and who you truly are. The sheer mental
effort of keeping up that level of deception means you don't have a
lot of energy for much else-like healthy relationships.
I don't agree that most of the people in the Order don't like Snape-I
don't see any evidence of this in the text. The only person who
really hated Snape is (apparently) gone. No one else fights with
him. Even Remus is trying to get along with him. So here's his
chance to break out of his isolation with people who understand and
respect the difficulty of what he's doing. Will he allow them to
break through his isolation? We'll see.
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