Eyes in the WW (was Re: Dragons, Lily and eyes (was Re: Harry's eyes))

[daelyn_duprer]

No: HPFGUIDX 77118

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "ghinghapuss" 
<rredordead at a...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "rubyxkelly" 
<rubykelly at w...> 
> wrote:
> > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "ghinghapuss" 
> <rredordead at a...> wrote:
> > > > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, catportkey at a... wrote:
> > > >  all I'd do is remove Harry's glasses - - his weakest point -
-- 
> > > > > and finish him off  
> > > > 
> > > > OMG, so this has been swimming around in my brain for about 
a 
> week 
> > > > and this post clicked something. This is sheer speculation, 
> > > > completely raw data, and I have no conclusion, but I was 
hoping 
> > > > someone here could help me make sense of it all.
> > > > 
> > > > Lily's eyes are green. Harry has her eyes. This is a big 
deal 
> over 
> > > > and over again. Evans is a Welsh name. The quintessential 
Welsh 
> > > name 
> > > > from what I understand. (There is a series of mysteries set 
in 
> > > rural 
> > > > Wales who's protagonist is named Evan Evans and people often 
> joke 
> > > > about how truly Welsh he is.)
> > > > 
> > > > A very common dragon is the Welsh green. The eyes are a 
> dragon's 
> > > > weakest point.
> > > > Discuss.
> > > > klra2ra
> > > 
> > > Wow you stopped me for a minute!  You are absolutely right 
about 
> the 
> > > Dragon connection.  The Dragon is the Welsh nation symbol.  
The 
> Pen-
> > > Dragons, the ancient Welsh kings. Evens is the commonest Welsh 
> name. 
> > > Harry's eyes are his weakest physical point, I'm guessing. 
> > > How does this link with Lily?  Will she turn out to be his 
weak 
> point 
> > > as well as his greatest source of strength? Or perhaps LV will 
> use 
> > > her as Harry weak spot?
> > > I'm enthralled.
> > > Mandy
> > 
> > Or will it be a clue that Harry, through lily, is related to 
> Salazar Slytherin through Slytherin's Muggle side? 
> > Dragons were also called the "Great Wyrm" in ancient times, and 
> were often portrayed as serpents, or serpent-bodied. (The Kraken 
> seamonster/sea-serpent that Persues saved the maiden Andromeda is 
a 
> good example). Perhaps it isn't Harry's physical vision that is 
his 
> weak point, but rather his (as yet) inability to look at 
> things/people/events surrounding him in a less subjective way, 
since 
> one of the signs of maturity is trying to at least make an effort 
to 
> be objective. This has been one of his main weaknesses so far, and 
we 
> saw it truly displayed in the OOtP where Voldemort uses his lack 
of 
> judgement to lead Harry to blindly follow his own will despite 
> warnings from those around him....to the point where he refuses to 
> even attempt to subjugate his emotions despite 
knowing/experiencing 
> clear signs of the connection Voldemort has made.
> > Also, if it is possible that Lily was related to Slytherin 
Muggle-
> wise, maybe the mark left on Harry isn't a scar that's shaped like 
s 
> lightening-bolt, but one shaped like an "S".
> > Kat O'Klzmk/rxk
> 
> Mandy (rredordead at a) again:
> Very interesting. I'm a great fan of Lily being a desendant of 
> Slytherin and possibly LV through his Marvolio side of the family.


I'm sure this has been discussed before, but eyesight seems the 
predominate way of doing magic in the WW.  For the vast majority of 
spells, the object needs to be within view, or the spell-caster 
needs to have a mental image of the object (ex: Harry summoning the 
Firebolt in GoF)  I'm sure there are counterexamples to this, but 
note that not even powerful wizards such as DD can cast a spell from 
a distance, or even from a different room if he is attacking 
someone.  We have yet to hear of a physically blind wizard, but we 
have found that figurative blindness (Harry and DD in OoP) results 
in chaos and casualties.  And many of us are hoping that 
Voldy's "blindness" about something will lead to his downfall.

It's also interesting that much of JKR's imagery is visual; rather 
than describe sounds or smells she uses sight.  I know this has been 
covered before, so I needn't elaborate.  The only 'character' so far 
that has functioned without eyesight was the Basilisk - and Harry 
recovered from that encounter by Fawkes' tears - from his eyes.  
Dreams, visions, contact with DD, and Lily's Eyes - it all adds up 
to say that his eyes are Harry's greatest strength as well as his 
weakness.  He needs glasses to correct his vision, and I wish he'd 
had some sort of glasses for the soul in OoP, maybe then he would 
have seen LV's plan for what it truly was.  I hope that aside from 
inheriting the shape and color of his mother's eyes, Harry has 
gained something of her vision as well.

Sorry that was so long, and I know it had nothing to do with 
dragons - unless you want to say that unlike a snake, (or a 
basilisk) a dragon relies on eyesight more than smell, so perhaps it 
is not a wyrm after all, and therefore farther removed from 
Slytherin than we have guessed.  But this is all stuff and 
nonsense.  Anyone else have ideas?

~Daelyn~