SHIP: kiss on cheek before quidditch match, anything?

[Richard]

No: HPFGUIDX 77172

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "queenofeverythang" 
<queenofeverythang at y...> wrote:
> This is not a howler but rather a soft-spoken disagreement ;0
> 
> If Ron truly needs to be King of the castle he will need to make 
> new friends ASAP.  If Ron's wife is anything like his mom she will 
> hardly be the submissive supporive type. If  Ron does hum 
> 'Wealey is our king' around the house it will probably be a Ralph 
> Kramden situation based on a lot of mouth and not reality. 
> 
> I think Ron will be more like his dad, mellow - taking a job 
> because he likes it. As much as he complains about being poor 
> and not having nice things, he also looks down on Percy who's 
> ambitions come before everything else. Hermione is very 
> goal-oriented and ambitious herself, and like countless other 
> people have posted,  I think Ron balances her out. If Hermione is 
> ruling the WW she's going to need someone to remind her that 
> there is life outside of the library. 
> 
> I don't think Ron needs to be the center of the earth, he just 
> needs to achieve greatness in his own mind. Like arthur has his 
> muggle stuff - let Ron have his little league quidditch. Maybe Ron 
> will surprise us all, like with the prefect thing, and he and 
> Hermione will both become aurors. There are so many maybes 
> but again imagine all the R/Hr comedic possibilities.
> 
> -> QoE -  who hopes for a moment where Ron is right and 
> Hermione is wrong for once. That sound like a fun read.

I also am not sending a howler, but wish to remind folks of one fact: 
JKR has said that a Weasley will die.  My leading candidates are, in 
order of my perception of probability, Ron, Molly and Percy.  Before 
I get into discussing why I think these the likeliest candidates, let 
me just point out that though JKR has also said that she sees 
more "chemistry" between Ron and Hermione, a permanent R-H 
relationship can't happen if he's dead, BUT there is lots of room for 
a triangle that could get interesting.  Also, I think the theme of 
how to deal with a relationship that contains a considerable amount 
of both grief and guilt (a la Harry and Cho) is likely to reappear.

If Ron dies, regardless of what has happened among the three of them, 
Harry and Hermione will be left devastated, and with only each other 
understanding just how devastating it is for both of them.  Thus, 
unlike with Harry and Cho, regardless of any guilt felt by the two 
survivors, they would not be able to simply lose interest and walk 
away from each other.

Now, as for WHY I think Ron, Molly and Percy the leading candidates 
for dead Weasley, it isn't exactly on topic in this thread, so I 
apologize here and now.

In the chapter "Mrs. Weasley's Woes," when Harry walks in on her with 
the Bogart, it is RON who is first lying there.  So, of the family 
members that she fears the death of, Ron is the one whose death she 
most fears ... at least of the bodies we are shown.  If Ron really 
does achieve his dream of being captain of the house quidditch team, 
head boy and winning the cup comes true (which thus far there is 
every indication of happening), he will have become the "best and 
brightest" Weasley, which we also know he aspires to.  This would 
make his death still more devastating to his family, and to his 
mother.  All this fits in well with JKR's pattern of showing life 
realistically, and we all know that not all our heroes come home from 
wars.  It is often the best and brightest who die ... and heroically.

Mrs. Weasley comes in second because it is she who fears so much the 
deaths of the others, and thus is most likely to try most desperately 
to save any one of them she sees in imminent peril.  I can see her 
unthinkingly and unflinchingly sacrificing herself for her children, 
her husband and even for Harry, who was, after all, one of the dead 
bodies the Bogart transformed into.

Percy is one of the Weasleys we didn't see, but as he is now at odds 
with his family, it could well be that we would have seen his body, 
had Harry opened the door sooner.  Why?  Think back to the World Cup 
and Molly's reaction upon the family's return home.  It was Fred and 
George that she went to first, and that because she felt so guilty 
about having been cross with them before they had left.  If the bad 
feelings between Percy and his parents (and particularly Molly) are 
not resolved soon, it could be a pretty permanent rift, and thus all 
the more painful for Molly should Percy die.  He has also alligned 
himself most firmly with forces NOT favorable to Dumbledore's and the 
rest of the Weasley's views regarding good, evil, etc., making 
reconciliation (after the bitter row he had with his father) both 
more difficult and less likely.

There are other Weasleys, and reasons for each to die, but these are 
the most persuasive arguements to me ... So what do others think?

"Richard"