is there a reason?

maneelyfh maneelyfh at yahoo.com
Fri Aug 15 11:46:53 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 77313

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Geoff Bannister" 
<gbannister10 at a...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, IAmLordCassandra at a... wrote:
> > Casey writes: 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Sorry if this has been posted before but while I was rereading 
> book 3 
> > > for about the 200th time (i had lots of time because of the 
huge 
> > > blackout here.. i havent had lights for about 4 hours) I 
started 
> > > thinking, is there a reason besides how they make you feel that 
> > > dumbledore hates dementors? i mean does he have bad things in 
his 
> > > past or does he just not like them? i think there has to be 
> something 
> > > deeper to this... or maybe im just reading too deeply into 
this, 
> i 
> > > dont know those four hours without electricty might have made 
me 
> go 
> > > insane!
> > 
> > Cassie:  I've always felt it was because of people's (mainly 
> Fudge's) naive 
> > trust in them.  I'm not sure where (I'm pretty sure it was GoF), 
> but somewhere 
> > Dumbledore tells Fudge something along the lines of "They (the 
> Dementors) will 
> > not remain loyal to you. Voldemort can give them more, 
> etc...etc.."  
> > 
> > Whatever the reasons...they must be very foul for kind, trusting 
> Dumbledore 
> > to not like them.  
> 
> 
> Geoff:
> 
> "Preposterous!" shouted Fudge again. "Remove the Dementors! I'd be 
> kicked out of office for suggesting it! Half of us only feel safe 
in 
> our beds at night because we know the Dementors are standing guard 
at 
> Azkaban"
> 
> "The rest of us sleep less soundly in our beds, Cornelius, knowing 
> that you have put Lord Voldemort's most dangerous supporters in the 
> care of creatures who will join him the instant he asks them!" said 
> Dumbledore. "They will not remain loyal to you, Fudge! Voldemort 
can 
> offer them much more scope for their powers and their pleasures 
than 
> you can!...."
> 
> GOF "The Parting of the ways" p.614

Everyone seems to think that Fudge is just naive but I think he is a 
LV supporter if not a DE.  Around the same passage quoted above, DD 
accuses Fudge of "putting too much importance on purity of blood". 
Things that bother me about Fudge:
1) Puts the blame on Sirius for the Potter's, and Wormtails supposed 
death without a trial or asking for an explanation.
2)The deatheaters in POA
3)The dementors kiss on Barty jr without taking the opportunity to 
question him.
4)The whole parting of the ways.
5)His continuing reluctance to believe LV is back at the end of OOP. 
He didn't exactly go Oh MY God you were right all along DD, he 
reacted begrudgingly to it.
6)He thinks so highly of Lucious Malfoy. Yes I know Lucious gives 
money but giving money isnt that big a deal for someone who has 
alot.  
I realize that this is out there but I just dont believe he is that 
naive. I also believe Ludo Bagman is a DE.....Wimbourn Wasp...Wasp 
buzzing around in GOF and OOP.....
Fran





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