Umbridge's Great Success as a DADA Teacher

ghinghapuss rredordead at aol.com
Fri Aug 15 20:01:00 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 77422

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "arrowsmithbt" 
<arrowsmithbt at b...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "James Redmont" 
<jamesredmont at h...> 
> wrote:
> > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "arrowsmithbt" 
> > > Nice one.
> > > The Queen does matter.
> > > The Armed Forces, the Police and the Judicuary all swear 
personal
> > > oaths of loyalty to the Queen, not to Parliament, even though 
> > that's
> > > who pays their salaries. If the Queen ( upon advice) refused to 
> > sign
> > > a piece of legislation, it could not be passed into law. There 
> > would 
> > > be a constitutional crisis. Parliament *could* depose the 
Queen, or
> > > at least force an abdication in these circumstances, but it 
would 
> > > get very messy, especially if some of the above groups decided 
to
> > > take their oaths seriously.
> > > 
> > > Unfortunately for A. Blair Esq., the post of Prime Minister does
> > > not figure in the English Constitution. It is a courtesy title 
for 
> > the
> > > leader of the party forming the government. He is supposed to 
> > > derive his power and authority through Parliament and has no
> > > other constitutional powers. I don't think he's happy with this.
> > > 
> > > Kneasy
> > 
> > Me:
> > 
> > So by saying the Queen *does* matter (in the Potterverse), you 
mean 
> > one of two things:
> > 
> > 1)The WW is under the Queen (am I the only one who thinks this is 
> > doubtful?)
> > 
> > or...
> > 
> > 2)You believe the Queen, rather than the PM (which is supported 
in 
> > canon), would be involved in matters such as securing the secrecy 
of 
> > the WW?  
> > 
> > (Here's the OT part, which you guys seem to be enjoying.  If 
having 
> > a Queen could potentially cause so much instability, isn't Tony 
> > Blair quite right to feel unhappy about the situation?  JMHO )
> > 
> > James "thank buddha for democracy" Redmont
> 
> You've missed one. Maybe the Queen *is* magical. After all, she
> just has to say the word and ships slide into the sea, bridges are
> opened and personages elevated. What could be more magical
> than that?
> 
> Tony Blair, like Fudge, is a politician. Like Fudge, you'd be a fool
> to trust him. The Queen knows when to keep her mouth shut, 
> unlike every politician that grasps at expediency instead of 
> principle.
> 
> The royal children used to go to some weird school in the wilds
> of Scotland for their education (sound familiar?). Since they never
> seemed to learn anything of significance to the muggle world, we 
> must assume they learned something else. Charles talks to plants,
> perhaps they talk back. Prof Sprout would be proud of him.
> 
> Merlin was advisor to a king, maybe the Order of Merlin is
> an ancient decoration bestowed by the Crown. And that isn't a 
> sceptre, it's an Ollivander special with tail hairs from the 
unicorn 
> on the Royal Coat of Arms.
> 
> Kneasy
> P.S. What's democracy?


Thank-you all for some very entertaining posts!! 

I for one thinks the Queen, in relation to the WW, is most definitely 
a Witch.  Properly had Dumbledore for transfuration and was in the 
same year as Tom Riddle.  
ER was definitely a Griffindor, so had little to do with Tom but I'll 
place money on the fact they were Head boy and girl together.  Her 
children: Charles – Squib (Diana - witch), Anne – Witch, Andrew – 
Wizard, Edward – Squib.

Mandy in anticipation of being arrested for Treason.






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