Harry/Voldemort showdown in 2 years

maneelyfh maneelyfh at yahoo.com
Sun Aug 17 11:56:51 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 77643

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Donna" <deemarie1a at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "ellejir" <eberte at v...> wrote:
> > It strikes me that we (the readers of the series) most likely 
have 
> > knowledge that the characters in the book *do not* seem to have.  
> > *We* know that the story is going to end in two more years, and, 
> > thus, that the final showdown between Harry and Lord V. is going 
to 
> > happen during that time frame.  (I really doubt that JKR will end 
> the 
> > series with the trio taking their N.E.W.T.S. and throwing their 
> > graduation caps in the air--if that is even done in the U.K.--and 
> > then toss in an epilogue stating that Harry subsequently defeated 
> > Lord V. and lived happily ever after.)
> > That said, Harry seems very ill-prepared.  No one seems very 
> > interested in preparing Harry for the final showdown.  Three of 
his 
> 5 
> > DADA teachers have been incompetent (and a fourth was an insane 
> > DE...)  If the prophecy is true, the fate of the whole WW depends 
> on 
> > Harry defeating Voldemort.  If anyone needs to learn defense 
> against 
> > the dark arts, it is Harry.  Yet DD remains strangely unconcerned 
> > about Harry's preparation.  He sets Snape up as the Occlumency 
> > teacher, and everyone falls all over himself telling Harry how 
> > important it is that he master Occlumency.  Then Snape's ickle-
> > feelings get hurt and he says "Screw the last hope of the 
wizarding 
> > world!" and stops the lessons.
> > I suppose one explanation is that DD realizes that Harry is 
> > hopelessly outmatched by LV in terms of his magical skill and 
> thinks 
> > that the power that Harry has to defeat Lord V must be something 
> > innate (i.e cannot be taught.)  Wizarding power seems to be 
mostly 
> > inborn--rather like intelligence (i.e. you are born either to be 
a 
> > squib or a Dumbledore, and no amount of academic instruction will 
> > make you into a DD if you are a squib.)  Still....it seems to me 
> that 
> > Harry could use a bit more quality teaching. And they better get 
> > cracking...
> > Elle  (who believes--like Hermione--that Harry needs to stop 
> fiddling 
> > as Rome burns and study longer and harder)
> 
> I can appreciate your thinking here.  But does that explain 
> Lockhart?  He is not a squib.  He can perform magic.  He said 
himself 
> that he was particularly good at Memory Charms.  (Not sure if that 
> was a quote from the book or the movie or both, as I do not have 
CoS 
> handy).  There are degrees of talent in the WW.  Pettegrew was not 
> particularly talented.  Witness how he had to work harder to become 
> an animagus.
> 
> Yes, Harry should be getting more intensive training and perhaps 
> paying better attention.  But now that he knows about the prophesy, 
> don't you think, once he gets over his grief and anger, he might 
> apply himself more knowing that it's either Voldemort or him?
> 
> I also believe that Harry is quite powerful.  There are various 
clues 
> given in all the books.  Take, SS for example.  Harry is the only 
> student who is able to summon his broom immediately.  Even Draco 
> wasn't as quick as Harry.  
> 
> In PoA wasn't Lupin surprised at Harry being able to summon even a 
> weak patronus?  And what about GoF, when Harry is able to defy the 
> Imperious Curse, albeit with a little practice?  By the end of that 
> lesson, he is able to throw off the curse entirely.
> 
> Just a few ideas.
> 
> D

Another show of Harry's inherent power was givenin PS/SS when he 
stated he found himself on the roof of the school cafeteria.  
Obviously Harry can apparate without any training and from everything 
written in the books about apparating its not easy thing to do. Harry 
is very powerful IMNO, its just not been brought to fruition.
Fran





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