Lily - Snape. An AGGIE?

melclaros melclaros at yahoo.com
Mon Aug 18 23:16:26 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 77882

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, B Arrowsmith 
<arrowsmithbt at b...> wrote:
> SHIPs are the source of endless fascination for the more 
romantically 
> minded in the Group, others,  miserable old misogynist curmudgeons 
that 
> we are, tend to sigh and pass on to the next post. But I feel that 
> there should be a similar form of harmless entertainment for us 
too.  

 

Mel starts sweating...
Uh oh....I HATE SHIPS. Which means of course I'm about to get into 
big trouble. You can tell because not only have I read and re-read 
this post but I'm now *replying* to it....




 Maybe it's the other way round, 
> with Lily having  a pash for  ole Sevvie. But so far as I can see  
> no-one  has explained just why romance never blossomed.
> The Snape character is a fascinating one for many posters; dark, 
> mysterious, forceful. Some girls would go weak at the knees when 
> confronted by a  rampant Snape;

me:
Uh huh...yup...guilty... I'm listening go on...
OH and did you HAVE to say 'Rampant Snape?' 
(steadies knees, wipes brow)


> did Lily?  After all, she made a public 
> scene when James had a go at him. What does that tell you? A soft 
>spot in Lilys' heart for the vulnerable heart-throb of the fifth 
>year, perhaps? I've been told that vulnerability in a male is 
>supposed to 
> attract females and here was a shy retiring lad, subject to 
>bullying,  no idea of how to pick a decent shampoo  and with sub- 
>standard laundry  arrangements. Obviously, he needs some-one to take 
>care  of him. Nowhere  is there any evidence that Snape returned her 
>feelings. Here he was, struggling to excel in his exams and Lily 
>pushes herself into  his life. You need  good marks to be a Death 
>Eater; study hard, early  nights, all that stuff.  Meanwhile, 
>there's this love-struck female  dogging his footsteps, following 
>him down to the lake, defending him in  front of everybody. What can 
>a  chap do? One should be polite, but that  may cause 
>misunderstandings and encourage her. And her family! Who'd want to 
>marry into that!? So it was the hard word, the rejection.
> 

Me:
This, my friend, is growing on me. Really growing...roots spreading 
like that tiny struggling bergamot plant I set in this spring--the 
very one that I now spend half my time yanking stray sprouts out of 
the REST of the garden. It's everywhere! 
This "Non-SHIP" fits SO many of the pieces together. It could very 
well be the "really big thing" we learn about Lily in book 7. It 
could explain Petunia's "that awful boy" is. (Why would James, so 
vehemently against the Dark Arts of any kind be discussing Dementors 
with Lily? Of course the question remains why would Snape be hanging 
around Lily if he's outright rejected her, but let's run with this a 
while) It could even go towards explain Snape's adult attitude 
towards Harry to some extent.
Not only that but it seems so true to character...Lily the charging 
into the rescue could certainly have been a "this will get him to 
notice me!" moment she has been waiting for.
The teenage Snape's reaction to her attmept fits your description--as 
does his non-interest. 
It fits the criteria of being very close to a theory that's been 
kicked around from the start but that JKR has denied...while saying 
there is SOMETHING "we've" come close to but not got quite right yet. 
Oh and again...that interview...I'll find it...where she told us "You 
learn something important about Lily in book 5. You learn something 
REALLY important about her in book 7."


Melpomene--who might change her mind but is thinking "by george, i 
think we've got it!"






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