My rather inflamatory post

zesca nansense at cts.com
Tue Aug 19 02:27:32 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 77909

severusbook4 at y...> wrote:
>In no terms was I telling everyone to stop having their opinions, wants, or 
hopes posted. 

madeyemood:
perhaps it's time to examine the difference between the meaning of your 
choice of words v. the meaning you intended for them to have. 

>severusbook4:
>It was my opinion. I am not the person who would ask for censorship of these 
posts either.  

madeyemood:
okay, sev, say i'm williing to give you the benefit of the doubt. 
the possibility exists that you didn't understand how your words would be 
construed. if that's the case, is it time to consider how to best express yourself 
in a public forum? 
instead of calling others thin-skinned, perhaps you'd generate less bad 
feeling if you chose topics where your word choice is more in line with your 
meaning. i find that such constraints on myself motivate me to learn how to 
generate the skills to express myself in a way that leaves others feeling 
respected.

sev:
>Living in America today, 
> one has to step lightly ...

m.e.mood:
indeed.

sev:
> I do not abhore gays or their lifestyle

m.e.mood:
okay.

sev:
> I wished to voice my opinion, and have been flamed for that.  

m.e.mood:
i think that this is more because your opinion implied a lack of tolerance for 
others despite your intentions. the sorry truth about being an adult is that we 
are responsible for the way in which we express ourselves. not all opinions 
are meant to be aired. there are always comments that will incur the wrath of 
any given group. now you've learned about this particular group and what 
feels safe and appropriate. 

it's helpful to keep in mind that listmembers know you exclusively by your 
words. they can't read body language, know your personal history, etc.

In no terms was my 
> post derogatory, or meant to be.  
again, i encourage you to examine the difference between those two ideas.

> I am not gifted with your artful use of words and 
> apologize for that.  
thank you?

> I thought this was for posting opinions and free thought, clearly I 
> was mistaken.  

madeyemood:
In my experience, free does not mean unconscious or insensitive. also, nota 
bene, no one has thrown you in jail.

i don't understand the basis of your idea that listmembers should interpret 
what you've written based on your intention. i'm afraid that as far as list life is 
concerned, what you write is who you are, for all intents and purposes.

sev:
> And still I do not understand the need to be so vocal about ones 
> sexual preference.

madeyemood:
perhaps it would be more apt to replace need with desire to do so without 
being illogically criticized or inhibited. 

where i may not be a big fan of every topic,  i would not expect listmembers to 
tolerate an airing of such an opinon. esp if that sort of stance were held in a 
spooky way by some listmembers. such are the general mores of group living.

while i do understand your "need" to talk about your opinions, it just doesn't 
wash in a setting that includes people with a commitment to tolerance and a 
certain level of expressive finesse.

> and I apologize to the people that I may have offended with my 
 nearsightedness.
> 
> Severus "humbly beg for forgiveness" Snape

madeyemood:
sweetly uttered. here's your chance to back it up with meaningful action.





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