What is Lily's big revelation in Book 5??? Help!

mlle_bienvenu mlle_bienvenu at hotmail.com
Tue Aug 19 17:39:07 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 77986

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, An'nai Jiriki <xmezumiiru at y...> 
wrote:
> 
> --- ghinghapuss <rredordead at a...> wrote:
> > What is the `something' we find out about Lily in
> > book 5?  Her hating 
> > James Potter?  (Rowling herself said something would
> > be reveled about 
> > her in book 5 and even more in book 7.  If anyone
> > out there knows 
> > where and when and what the exact quote by JKR is
> > could you let me 
> > know?)  
> 
> > Why? Let's see:  Duress?  Well children's lit is
> > full of beautiful 
> > princesses being forced to marry evil Kings,
> > although usually they 
> > are rescued just in the nick of time by their true
> > love. So I suppose 
> > it could be possible, but all the photo's Harry has
> > seen of his 
> > parents they both look very happy so I don't think
> > so. Duress through 
> > an arranged marriage?  Possible between two Pure
> > Blood family, 
> > especially as the WW still seems to exist in the
> > 19th century anyway, 
> > but Lily's family are 20th century muggles, so I
> > don't see an 
> > arranged married there.  Ok so we are left with
> > necessity, which 
> > deals with teenage pregnancy.  > 
> 
> I like the forced marriage theme. It has always been
> my impression that Lily was from a wizarding family,
> one that had a squib a few generations back and then
> married muggles. They would be so proud then because
> they could re-enter the WW. 
> 
> I argue the teenage pregnacy for time issues. Correct
> me if I'm wrong, but is there not a five year
> difference between their graduation and death? Of
> course, it is quite possible the WW has a way of
> suspending the developement processes of a fetus, but
> I doubt they would use it. 
> 
> Chris
> 
> =====
> "You irritate me. Kill me now." ~Javert, Les Miserables

Mlle Bienvenu: Ohh! heheh... another Javert fan I see :D 

I like your idea of Lily's family being of mostly wizards but for her 
immediate family... I've always had the impression that they at least 
knew about the wizarding world before Lily got her letter by their 
reaction to it.

I also find the idea that their marriage might have been forced upon 
them to be an interesting idea as well... and I am wondering now if 
Dumbledore had heard the prophecy in time to actually create the 
conditions to fulfil it.  For example: Ddore hears the prophecy and 
tells the Order of the Phoenix. a handful of the Order had defied 
Voldmort three times, Lily and James are two of them. If they wanted 
to get rid of LV bad enough, I can see them planning out the 
pregnancy so it would fall in July just to fulfil that end of the 
prophecy. The same could have happened with the Longbottoms.

The only other Lily revelation that could have occured was that she 
stood up for Snape, although I can't think of any ramifications it 
might have on the plot.

Mlle Bienvenu

"I have often been severe in my life. Towards others. This is just. I 
have done well. Now, if I were not severe towards myself, all the 
justice that I have done would turn to injustice."  - Javert, Les 
Miserables





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