Rising from the Ashes ( re: veil/Ddore's cowardice)

[Jen Reese]

No: HPFGUIDX 77992

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "urghiggi" <urghiggi at y...> 
wrote:
> I think the whole veil device is a strong message re JKR's 
philosophy about death -- to wit, that it's not the end of the line 
for the soul, only the end for the 
> physical body. All the stuff about James' spirit and Lily's love 
living on in Harry 
> is further evidence for this view. How the "death is final but it's 
not the end"  idea will manifest itself in books 6/7 is hard to 
predict. > urghiggi, Chicago


I agree that the veil is a poetic example of JKR's philosopy on 
death.  It's another piece of imagery from the "Phoenix rising from 
the ashes" theme, such a prominent symbol throughout the series.

Previous threads on the Phoenix mentioned the literal example of Lord 
Voldemort rising from the *dead* in GOF, and one figurative example 
was the OOTP rising from the death of so many original members to 
form again (thanks steve-bboy, that was your post).  Here are some 
others I thought of (several just expand on urghiggi's thoughts 
above):

1) Lily's love is reborn in Harry out of the "curse that failed."

2) James is reborn, activated in Harry the night he produces the 
Prongs patronus, and DD tells him, " you think the dead we love ever 
truly leave us?...Your father is alive in you, Harry, and shows 
himself most plainly when you have need of him."

3)The partial reformation of Tom Riddle through the diary and Ginny.

4) LV seeking the Elixer of Life to transform from vapor to physical 
form.

4) The veil, through which people die and are transformed.

5) Fawkes swallowing the AK curse meant for Dumbledore, and returning 
to ashes.


So, I do think Sirius will return, albeit as a memory or transformed 
in some way.  Sigh, I'll miss him in human form though--he wasn't 
perfect, but his love and loyalty toward Harry were unwavering.

Jen