We can't trust anyone...

[sophineclaire]

No: HPFGUIDX 78044

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "vecseytj" <vecseytj at t...> 
wrote:
> 
> 
> I was reading OOP last night and this page just jumped out at me. 
> Because Hermione is saying so forcfully that to trust DD is a 
given. 
> But, we (Harry) learns that Dumbledore makes mistakes too, and  his
> ego can lead him astray. (ie; that DD is the *most* powerful wiz 
that
> was.  And not telling Harry *very* important things)  Things that
> should have been shared *long* before.
> 
>  quote from Ch. 25 end of page 554 to 555.
> 
> Harry is upset about Occlumency.  Saying it's not a bag of laughs. 
> And Ron is saying...
> Pg 554:
> Maybe it's not Harry's fault he can't close his mind," said Ron
> darkly, "What do you mean? said Hermione.  Well, maybe Snape isn't
> really trying to help Harry..." Harry and Hermione starred at him. 
> Ron looked darkly and meaningfully from one to the 
other.  "Maybe," he
> said agin in a lower voice "he's actually trying to open Harry's 
mind
> a bit wider...make it easier for You-know-"  "Shut up, Ron" said
> hermione angrily.  "How many times have you suspected Snape, and 
when
> have you *ever* been right?  Dumbledore trust him, he works for the
> Order, that ought to be enough."  "He used to be a Death Eater," 
said
> Ron stubbornly. "And we've never seen proof that he really swapped
> sides..." 
> "Dumbledore *trusts* him,"  Hermione repeated.  "And if we *CAN'T
> TRUST DUMBLEDORE, WE CAN'T TRUST ANYONE."*
> 
> And this is my point.  Harry can't *trust* DD anymore (well not
> fully).  Harry has learned a very hard lesson.  But, my concern is
> that Harry is not going to share this lesson with R/H and I think 
this
> might lead to; in the next book Snape sliping up, and prove Ron 
right.
>  I think for all of Hermione's smarts, *she* like DD are blinded by
> their abilities.  Snape is going to try and kill Hermione.  I think
> this for various reasons...  but, the big one is that Hermione puts
> too much trust in DD.
> 
> What do ya think?  A new off the wall theory, but, I wanted to see
> what others thought of it.
> Thanks Tj



I disagree with you. Ron tends to be right when he says things off 
the cuff or when he's not really thinking about it ( ie. Mirror of 
Erised, and the infamous divination project) rarly does Ron's out 
and out accusations been right.

Maybe we're about to have the rug pulled out from under our feet, 
but Harry still listens to Ron a bit more than Hermione and I think 
JKR is going to use  Book 6 or 7 to establish a plot point where we 
think that Ron is finally right about Snape, Harry agrees with Ron, 
and that this dislike of the Potion's master is going to backfire on 
them in a most nasty way. ( I think Snape is in till at least book 7 
due to the hints given by JKR, though maybe DD or someone that Harry 
is close to dies due to the boy's error).

-Sophineclaire