Full Moon
jwcpgh
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Wed Aug 20 02:00:49 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 78057
> Mandy:
> I think Sirius was board and simply wanted the excitement of the
> hunt, thrill of running around the Forbidden Forest as an animal,
the
> thrill of the kill...Also remember the violent fight between
Snuffles
> and Werewolf Lupin at the end of PoA? I think Sirius gets off on
> that. And the fact that it is an "extremely fraught time for one of
> his closest friends"...I don't think Sirius cares. His longing for
> the thrill out ways his care for his friend.
>
> "marika_thestral" <marika_thestral at y...> wrote:
> Me (Marika):
> I find Mandy's last sentence very interesting. It's also backed up
by
> the fact that he seemed so willing to hurt the Fat Lady and Ron in
> PoA to achieve his goal (catching PP). His needs outweigh the needs
> of others. He makes me think of a person who is driven to act the
way
> he does to keep some inner anguish away, and when bored or left
alone
> with his own thoughts he gets restless or depressed. (Bipolar
> personality maybe?)
<snip>
> Was it a game he played - unconsciously? - when he suggested that
PP
> become Potter's secret keeper? No, I don't really think so, but
it's
> a fascinating thought. He just couldn't resist (what he thought to
> be) the small risk factor. Then everything turned out horribly
wrong,
> and for the first time in his life he totally lost control of the
> situation. OK, OK. It's a bit extreme, but I enjoy the idea J
>
> Marika
Laura:
Geez, the guy's dead and can't defend himself...wait, he wasn't real,
was he? Oh, right. Well, what I meant to say before getting carried
away was that this all seems way too hard on Sirius. What evidence
do we have that he was a manipulator? The only person we see him
manipulating as a teenager is James, and that's on one occasion.
Other textual references about the friendship suggests that they were
equally likely lead the other into mischief. And as for the Fat Lady
and Ron-the Fat Lady is a picture. She's not alive-she can be
repaired. And as is pointed out by someone in the Shrieking Shack
scene, if Sirius had wanted to hurt Ron, he easily could have. He
was after Peter, and only Peter, and only because he was convinced
(with good reason) that Peter was still working for LV and would put
Harry in danger.
The text doesn't make it clear whose idea it originally was to make
Sirius the Potters' secret keeper, but it does say that DD offered to
do it instead and James "insisted" (p 203, PoA)on Sirius. Sirius's
idea to switch to Peter would not have reduced the risk to himself at
all, but would have protected the Potters completely-if Wormtail
hadn't gone over. And that apparently caught everyone by surprise-
even DD. I can't believe that Sirius would ever knowingly have put
James's life at risk for any reason. I'll agree that Sirius is
unhappy, and has good reasons for being so, and he's thoughtless at
times, especially as a kid. But never, never would he have
endangered James.
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