POA Dementor Kiss on Harry - New Question

Talisman talisman22457 at yahoo.com
Thu Aug 21 00:44:45 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 78215

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "James Redmont" 
<jamesredmont at h...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "bohcoo" <sydenmill at m...> 
> wrote: <snip>> > How did Fudge know the dementors tried to Kiss 
Harry? 
 James Redmont said:
> DD told him, I'll bet.  How did DD know?  He knows everything, 
> doesn't he?

Talisman,swoops in to say:

I believe Snape told DD.  Snape was the only one in a position to do 
so.  This is one of the many reasons I have for believing Aide-de-
Camp!Snape was, once again, on the job (for DD) saving Harry. 

Without wading through the entire convoluted logic of time-turners, 
there had to be a first time through the dementor scene.  I do not 
think we are to believe that time-turners can unsuck anyone, any 
more than they can bring the dead to life.  Therefore, someone had 
to prevent the initial sucking, and the obvious answer is that Snape 
was not knocked out (either at all or as long as presumed) and saved 
Harry, Hermione, and yes, Sirius that first time through. 

I also point out that in Occlumency lessons, Harry has recurrent 
visions of the dementor scene form PoA.(OoP 534, 536, 591)   JKR 
chooses this "dementor vision" as the final one for 
Harry's "resistance break-through" so that we see Snape's face 
layered with the dementors. (OoP 591)  Ambiguous, yes.  Just a 
coincidence.  I think not. 

You might also notice that in PoA where M.O.M Law Enforcement could 
have been a problem,i.e. if Snape pressed charges for being injured 
by HRH's spells, he absolves them. "They weren't responsible for 
their actions." (PoA 386)  But when it comes to severe academic 
punishment for interference, where only Dumbledore has the power (so 
there is no danger of it being exercised), he argues they should "be 
suspended--at the very least." (387)

Snape's rhetoric and Snape's actions are two entirely different 
things. 

And while I'm at it, as to the business about Snape being unable to 
control his emotions where James/Harry are concerned:

>"Only those skilled at Occlumency are able to shut down those 
feelings and memories that contradict the lie, and so utter 
falsehoods in his presence without detection. " (Snape OoP 531)

"Harry, I know you don't like Snape, but he is a superb 
Occlumens . . ." (Lupin OoP 527) 

Talisman, who has decided to dye all of her underwear gray.

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