Map of Hogwarts-LONG

[jeffl1965]

No: HPFGUIDX 78442

> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Shaun Hately" 
<drednort at a...> 
> wrote:
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> > I mainly went with privacy stalls to avoid comments from certain 
> people 
> > -

   Oh, so who are these people and what is their problem? :)  Lack 
of  privacy, or having to share a tub/shower isn't going to promote 
same- sex activites that much. That's an old, errant misconseption.  
Sadly  many US citizens feel that boys at boarding schools are all 
screwing  each other. Frankly, from what I've seen of their 
structured days,  when would they find time? :) Anyway, its just 
silly.
 
 > > bboy_mn:
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> >  
> >  <snippity snip snip>
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> > Perhaps the first question we should ask and answer is whether 
Hogwarts is likely to have private/semi-private bathrooms, or if  
they have common/communal bathrooms?
> > 
      Agreed.

> >  
> > 
> > So the first question - Hogwarts Boarding School...
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> > Semi-private bath - one bathroom per two dorm rooms? Although,  
living in a tower, doesn't make that likely.
> > 
   Hmmm...a toilet shared between two  rooms, well, the way Ron eats, 
I doubt that would be a good idea.  He's stink it up a bit too 
much. :)


> > Common/Communal bathroom? - Perhaps one floor of the tower is a  
large bathroom for the boys, and another floor of the tower is a 
large bathroom for the girls. Personally, this is has my vote. 
> > 
Intresting. I like these ideas, and they all make sense. I'd have  to 
say that I vote for the floor for each gender. Naturally, the 
female bath would be closer to their dorm than the male. Not to be  
sexist, but being polite. IIRC, some parks I've been to were set up  
like that, with the women's facilities being closer to the park area  
than the male.  Also the bathing area would likely have a changing  
area right outside the actual bathing area, imho, and I guess they  
could have both showerheads and a few tubs, but in GOF, I think,  
Oliver is mentioned trying to drown himself in the shower after a  
Quidditch match, and I'm guessing that the shower is in the 
Quidditch  lockerroom, but its not clear from the book. Its not that 
big of a  deal, but I just think that they'd have the tubs in such an 
old  school. 




> > 
> > Then the next question is, what facilities, that is, what 
equipment  is contained in each bathroom?
> > 
> > Tubs, stools, sinks?
> > 
       Yeah, I'd say so.

> > Tub/shower combinations, stools, sinks?
> > 
      Well, the shower hose attachments would be ok, I guess.

> > Showers only, stools, sinks?
> >
      Dunno. Maybe for Qudditch, since they'd be covered with mud 
sometimes. :) 


> > Primarily group showers with a few tubs, stools, sinks?
> >
       Dunno.  I guess it could be, but the tubs only sounds closer, 
but I could be wrong.

> > 
> > Of course, there is no way for me to know, but here is what I  
suspect.
> > 
> > One tower floor for boys, and one for girls bathroom facilities,  
open group showers with a few semi-private tubs, private toilet 
stalls, rows of sinks, and a changing area outside the shower area. 
One wash sink in each dorm room.
> > 
I don't know about the idea of having a washbasin in the dorm. Its  
not a bad idea, but with boys, such a thing would be rather dirty 
and  most likely always dripping in the middle of the night since 
they'd  not shut it off properly. ;)



> > bboy_mn:
> > 
> > Let me see if I understand the question. 
> > 
> > You are asking, are there privacy partitions in the bathing 
area,  not are there privacy partitions in the 'bodily functions' 
area?
> > 
> > I think it's clear that, at least for the 'sit down' bodily  
functions areas, there are privacy stalls. Although, I confess to 
having been places that didn't have that luxury. So that questions 
seems  resolved.
> > 
> > Now the actual bathing areas. I can't remember ever being in an 
European school, but I have been in public health clubs and baths in 
Germany, and they usually have open showers. They seem to be very  
big on privacy, the 'bodily functions' stalls go from floor to 
ceiling  and don't let so much as a crack of light throught the 
seams. At the  same time, Germans don't seem to be as hung up about 
nudity as Americans are, so showers we usually open 'gang' showers.
> > 
> > > > 
        Agreed. Its ok to need to have privacy to have a poo, and 
nobody wants to hear or smell it,  but otherwise, you're all the same 
sex, so why worry.
   
> > 
> > One thing I don't think many people are aware of, is that, to a 
limited extent, water is rationed in Europe, or at least in 
Germany when I was there. > > 
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> > So my point is, based on admittedly limited experience, I'm 
going  with open showers, and perhaps, in some cases, tubs with 
handheld  showers.
> > 
> 
>   Ah, thanks for clearing some things up. I wasn't aware of the  
rationing in EE, but it makes sense. I've noticed the handheld 
shower  nozzels in some movies, and had assumed that it was due to 
the large  amount of construction done during the post WW2 era when 
home showers  weren't that common, since I see in some movies that 
the homes are  rather old, some even pre-WW2. I do recall seeing in 
some books, one  that I borrowed from a library a few years ago was 
about boarding schools, but I dont recall if it was only in the UK or 
in Europe as  well. It showed large tiled rooms with showerheads, no 
privacy, but I  also saw a few tubs, with more than one boy in them. 
No privacy there  either. I don't recall seeing the loo, so can't 
comment on that. 
     I'm  guessing that what we saw in the film of the girl's toilet 
is close  to what most schools would have. It was odd that in the 
movie they  had regular sinks near the toilet, yet they also had 
those older  sinks in the lounge area. I'm guessing that was for the 
movie only,  as I don't think they'd have 2 sets of wash basins in a 
loo, but then  again, I don't go looking in the female washrooms, at 
least not since  I was a wee lad. :)


  Jeff