Umbridge's Rape (Was: Is Umbridge a Half-Breed???)

[Sydney]

No: HPFGUIDX 78588

Silmariel wrote:
> > I've been reading the thread and I've noticed the mythological 
> > references, I'll like to add that centaurs, bacchae, and berserks 
> > were also notorious for ingesting phychoactive fungus during 
> > rituals, which leads easily to the violence and lust fame.
> > 
> > I don't think Jo is giving a view of centaurs that include uses of 
> > amanita muscaria in rituals that end with rapery, but the hint to 
> > the shock can be she has been drugged. They have forced her to 
> > 'see'.


V added:

> Very good point there. The idea that Umbridge's punishment was to see 
> her own future, possibly even her own death, fits neatly into the 
> information JKR has given us about her centaurs. It also works well 
> with the fact that Umbridge is in a state of shock after 
> she's "rescued". After all, wouldn't seeing yourself die be rather 
> tramatic?
> 
> V, who's strongly opposed to the "Umbridge was raped" theory.

Me:  I agree, that's quite a cool concept.  I can see a big crazy
psychoactive montage going on!

I should stress though, that the Centaurs cleary intended to kill
Umbridge:  when Hagrid meets them in the woods, they say "the
slaughter of foals is a terrible crime" but they feel free with
adults.  I don't think a little education in inter-species harmony or
higher consciousness was what they had in mind.

Sydney-- who for the record doesn't exactly believe "Umbrige was
raped", just that Rowling leaves it open.