Music and Wizarding Wireless / Lucius & Diary!Tom / 4 Loves

[Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)]

No: HPFGUIDX 78634

Wanda wrote in 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/78591 :

<< The Weird Sisters make me wonder what else the WW does for music. 
And what about people who don't like modern music? Do wizards like 
Bach and Mozart? >>

They have Celestina Warlock. She is very popular and recorded some 
Quidditch team's fight song; that's all we know about her style of 
music. I imagine it to be the Franl Sinatra / Barbara Streisand type.

Dumbledore's Famous Wizard card in PS/SS says he likes chamber music, 
and the big book in which Hermione looked up Nicolas Flamel referred 
to him as 'noted alchemist and opera lover'. 

<< And do they have some way of listening to music, as Muggles have 
recordings? >>

Do they have a harp that plays itself or is that movie contamination? 
It does seem likely to me that they can have instruments that play 
themselves as a way of listening to instrumental music, but not the 
human voice. 

They have the Wizarding Wireless Network, which is a magic imitation 
of Muggle radio. It;s called "wizarding wireless" because British 
Muggles call radio "wireless". And wireless got that name because it 
followed telegraphy, which needs wires. They are music shows on WWN, 
as in Weasley kitchen in CoS, "Witching Hour, with the popular 
singing sorceress, Celestina Warbeck."

Canon says that Harry was not familiar with the madly popular Weird 
Sisters because he didn't have access to Wizarding Wireless. That 
implies that no one has a Wizarding Wireless set available to the 
students at Hogwarts. That seems terribly unlikely to me, however if 
they DID have access to Wizarding Wireless at Hogwarts, the whole 
Quidditch team would cluster around it listening to professional and 
international matches being broadcast.

Ffred replied in 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/78601 :

<< I wonder if the key to the WW and music is that they _make_ music 
rather than just consuming it, as we did in our world before the 
advent of radio/TV/video/MTV and all that stuff. Or possibly that 
they are going that way. There is a radio station which broadcasts 
music, there are the Weird Sisters, there is even Stubby Boardman (if 
you believe that that's a real person). >>

I agree -- I believe that the wizarding folk have no recorded music, 
only live on wireless and live in person. The wizarding population is 
so small (I estimate 20,000 on the island of Britain) that they can 
frequently see their favorite performers live -- if the Weird Sisters 
play in a 2000 seat hall, the whole population could see them in 10 
shows.  And transportation/parking wouldn't be a problem, because of 
Apparation and Floo. However, the kids at Hogwarts only get out for a 
Hogsmeade weekend a couple of times a year, so they wouldn't be able 
to often go listen to music shows off-campus. They need to have shows 
at school more often than once a year at Halloween and once a century 
at Yule Ball of Triwizard Tournament. They also need to play their 
own music --- before OoP, I was constantly saying that Ron needs to 
learn to play guitar. It's a good way to pick up girls and would be 
an accomplishment that none of his brothers have shown so far. 

<< Conversely, there's never any mention of music going on in any of 
the pubs, not even in the Leaky Cauldron when Harry was staying there 
in PoA: you'd think they'd have a piano in the corner or a session 
going on or _something_ >>

Can we hope that that's just something that JKR forget to mention, as 
she so often forgets to mention Harry taking baths/showers and she 
used to forget to mention what Christmas gifts he gave Ron and 
Hermione, until people started to complain to her that he wasn't 
giving them gifts at all. She said, yes he was but she hadn't had 
space to mention it.

evilshelly wrote: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/78611 :

<<what exactly was Lucius trying to achieve by giving Tom Riddle's 
diary to Ginny? Was it his own idea, or was he perhaps somehow 
receiving [or had in the past received] orders from Voldemort? Would 
the 'current' Voldemort - weak and almost powerless - not have been 
rather put out with having  his 16-year-old self competing with 
him?(snip) Were his actions in 'the Chamber of Secrets' an attempt to 
bring back a Voldemort indebted to him, to guarantee himself a 
position of greater power this time round? >>

When that question is asked, many people come up with the same answer 
you did, and expect LV to punish him for it. And some people think 
that it was just a little plot to discredit Arthur Weasley by turning 
his daughter into a Muggle-killer. I think Lucius was going to plant 
the diary in a random textbook on the shelf and let a random student 
be the victim, and only got the idea of planting it on Ginny Weasley 
after his fight with Arthur in the bookstore.

I think he was following LV's instructions, altho' I don't know how 
LV sent instructions once Quirrell was dead. But he would have 
reckoned that his diary-self would take care of that irksome Potter 
boy who had interfered with his Quirrell-plan. And that he could 
'possess' the body of his re-embodied diary-self, and keep it 
forever, because possession wouldn't damage it, because it was his 
own body. (However, possession would have killed the personality/mind 
of re-embodied diary-self, who would have resisted that outcome. 
Betcha LV didn't think of that.) 

Geoff Bannister wrote in 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/78613 :

<< S Lewis wrote a book called "The Four Loves" in which he 
identified "agape" (Christian love), "eros" (sexual love), "philos" 
(love of friends I think) and I think the other (whose Greek name 
escapes me) is the sort of "clubbable" re;ationship that a group of 
guys together might have - shared interests etc. >>

In previous discussions of the Four Loves, I seem to recall that the 
fourth was called "storge" and meant "family love".