Harry's sexual preference, and shipping in general

evangelina839 evangelina839 at yahoo.se
Mon Aug 25 17:56:34 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 78702

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "severusbook4"
<severusbook4 at y...> 
wrote:
> Severus here:
> 
> Sue, as you stated, people are allowed to read ANYTHING into JKR's 
> works, but that does not neccessarily make them correct.  And yes 
> you can have your fantasy of Orlando Bloom (as Draco) and Harry
have 
> a love affair but this is not the place to air one's sexual 
> fantasies.  This is a place for discussion of the Harry Potter 
> series of books.  Earlier, by voicing my opinion on this subject, I 
> was subjected to a flaming.  For some reason, it is O.K. for people 
> to say Harry is gay (and have very little to base this on), but not 
> O.K. for people to say that he is straight (and have quite a bit to 
> support this).  What I am saying is keep your fantasies out of the 
> forum, and if you want Orlando to play Draco, then post it in the 
> movie discussion forum.
> 
> As far as Harry being "attracted to Bill", give me a break.  Just 
> because a guy finds another guy cool, doesn't mean that he is 
> harboring sexual feelings for him. Jeez, people, give it a rest.  
> Sexual attraction and love are not related, I love my guy friends 
> and think some are really cool, but the thought of sex with them 
> makes me ill.  Now sex with my girl friends, that is a completely 
> different feeling.  Harry gets the wonderful butterfly, warm fuzzy 
> feeling over Cho, and still has them for all I know, but that 
> relationship was doomed for the get go.  And they were both guilty 
> of that. 
> 
> If this starts another "lovely rousing cyber bar fight" so be it.
> IMHO sexual fantasies should be kept out of this forum.  They do 
> nothing for furthering the discussion of these books.
> 
> Severus "Straight Pride" Snape

I wasn't planning on replying to this, but I just couldn't help
myself. :) First, you write 
the above post - then one with SHIPs. (78681) I quote that:

"Ginny is still smitten with Harry as far as I can tell at the end of
OotP, the scene with 
Ginny hiding her smile as Harry was talking to her while they were
visiting Hermione 
in the hospital."

Now, I don't get this. First of all I'm not sure which part you are
referring to; is this 
the one?

"Ginny caught Harry's eye and looked away quickly, grinning." (p.
747, UK)

That's all I found, and that happened right after *Hermione* was
talking, and just 
about everyone present was trying not to laugh at Luna. And Harry has
shared such 
looks with Ron before, I think once at the Dursleys in GoF. So we
could build a Harry/
Ron SHIP right there.

And then, in the above post, you complain that calling Harry gay has
no canon 
support, while you think Ginny smiling at Harry is enough proof that
she still has a 
crush on him.

I'm not just saying this to be picky, I'm trying to make a point
here. :) The point 
being: what's the difference between straight and gay SHIPs?? I
realise that your main 
objection might have been against Harry specifically being gay, but I
feel I've just read 
one too many posts who seem to argue that discussing the possibility
of any gay 
character at all is just completely out of order, has no canon to
support it, and 
everyone disagreeing should just "get real". And I don't understand
why! I mean, sure, 
these are children's books and all so sexuality will probably not be
much of an issue, 
but since lots of characters are dating I don't see why we couldn't
just get a glimpse 
of a gay relationship. Really - would that be such a big deal? JKR
has equality between 
genders, colors and religions without making much of an issue of it.

Okay, so this is probably just a "lighten up" post I'm writing. I've
read at least one of 
that kind before, though, and that didn't have much of an effect. ;)
To summarise: no 
need to get upset, people, it's only homosexuality.

Now, I have one last thing to say, and it's just total pickiness.

SS:
<<...this is not the place to air one's sexual fantasies.>>
later:
<<Now sex with my girl friends, that is a completely different
feeling.>>

Hrrm! Adhere to your own advice, Sevvy. :)


evangelina
(who's not going to miss this opportunity to point out that she's
from sweden, a.k.a 
home country of Carolina Klüft. :))





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