Heliopaths

maneelyfh maneelyfh at yahoo.com
Mon Aug 25 22:08:32 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 78737

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "bohcoo" <sydenmill at m...> wrote:
> 
> 
> OOP, ch. 16, pg. 345, American edition: 
> Luna Lovegood speaking:  " '...Afterall, Cornelius Fudge has got 
his 
> own private army...Yes, he's got an army of heliopaths. They're 
> spirits of fire... Great tall flaming creatures that gallop across 
> the ground, burning everything in front of ---' "
> 
> 
> OOP, ch. 34, pg. 775
> "Once more the wall spun and became still again. Harry approached a 
> door at random and pushed. It did not move... 
> 
> " 'Sirus's knife,' said Harry, and he pulled it out from inside his 
> robes and slid it into the crack between the door and the wall. The 
> others all watched eagerly as he ran it from top to bottom, 
withdrew 
> it, and then flung his shoulder again at the door. It remained as 
> firmly shut as ever. What was more, when Harry looked down at the 
> knife, he saw that the blade had melted."
> 
> 
> pg. 776
> " 'You know what could be in there?' said Luna eagerly as the wall 
> started to spin yet again."
> 
> 
> Now, everyone assumes that the door Dumbledore describes to Harry 
> later in the story as, " 'a room in the Department of Mysteries 
that 
> is kept locked at all times,' " (pg. 843) is this same door that 
> melted Harry's knife. Nope. Different door. Of the dozen or so 
doors 
> that the DA had to chose from that fateful night, they didn't try 
all 
> of them, only about half. So, it is quite logical that more than 
just 
> one room is "kept locked at all times." Dumbledore was just 
> describing ONE of them to Harry, the "you've got it and Voldemort 
> doesn't, room." Heliopaths could be behind Door Number 3, for 
> instance.
> 
> Besides, what about this power that Harry has (love, hope, etc, 
etc --
> whatever it is) would melt a knife?
> 
> I think Fudge DOES have an army of heliopaths, just as Luna 
> describes -- AND, they were in that room that melted Harry's knife. 
> How does Luna know about them? She might be our missing SEER; we 
have 
> all tried to pin that gift on Ron (and, he may have some talent in 
> that direction, we shall see) but Luna has much much more to show 
us.
> 
> Bohcoo

I have been wanting to do a post about Luna, the quibbler, and the 
validity of the creatures she comes up with and some of the articles 
written in the Quib.  I think the Heliopaths will turn out to be 
ture.  If you notice in the passage where she brings them up, she is 
pretty adamant about them, and even getting in Hermione's face over 
it.  It would fit in nicely with mine and Sev's theory on Fudge being 
a DE.  The Heliotropes along with Fudge wanting to take over 
Gringotts. And the passage in GOF when LV is talking about his army 
of creatures that all would fear.  I think he was including other 
creatures as well as the giants (if you consider them creatures) and 
the dementors.

IMHO, Luna's character is written alot like Trelawney's.  some of 
Trelawneys predictions are right, some are wrong.  She was right 
about Umbridge being in grave danger. Also at the beginning of GOF 
she predicted Harry would have a rough year and this was befoe his 
name popped out of the goblet of fire. 
Fran





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