[HPforGrownups] re-reading PoA in the light of OoP - Legilimency

[RSFJenny19 at aol.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 78758

LPD wrote: 
2. Did Lupin use legimency?

In the shrieking shack, when Lupin first arrives Harry observes that 
Lupin is staring at Sirius as though seeing past him, seeing 
something none of the others can see.  I assume he is using legimency 
on Sirius to understand the truth about Wormtail.  But if so, I 
wonder why he doesn't need a wand like Snape did in OoP.


Now me:

IMO, yes, he did, it was that very passage that caught my eye too, and I went 
back and found this as well:"'It has nothing to do with weakness,' said 
Professor Lupin sharply, as though he had read Harry's mind." (PoA p.187 paperback, 
US ver).  There's a discussion starting at post #77662 which has more 
references (two from OotP, I believe) to Lupin's possible ability.
As for why Snape needed a wand, we actually don't have a lot to go on when it 
comes to Legilimency.  We know DD, LV and Snape can definitely do it. We've 
been told that LV is *very* good at it and DD has said he is skilled in it as 
well.  We've seen LV do it without a wand (SS/PS - when LV knows he's lying 
about the stone, for one definite wandless example) but we only have DD's 
recounting of his using it to get Kreacher to tell the truth, meaning we have no 
episodes confirmed in canon of DD using Legilimency without the need for a wand.  
Snape however, we know he is a suberb *Occlumens*, but we are not told how 
skilled he is in Legilimency, so this could explain his need for the wand.  

~RSFJenny


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