FUDGE IS A DE!!!!

[maneelyfh]

No: HPFGUIDX 78811

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "severusbook4" 
<severusbook4 at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, jazmyn <jazmyn at p...> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > entropymail wrote:
> > > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "severusbook4"
> > > <severusbook4 at y...> wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  > I have pulled our findings and it seems, astonishingly, that 
Fudge
> > >  > is in leagues with LV.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Excellent post, severusbook4.  Just one thought occurs to me: 
if Fudge
> > > is truly in league with Voldemort, and not the idiot that he 
pretends
> > > to be, then why would Voldemort have so much trouble retrieving 
the
> > > prophecy from the Department of Mysteries?  Couldn't Fudge have 
just
> > > gotten him in somehow, without detection?
> > > 
> > > Entropy
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > Because Fudge is not a DE.  If he was, he would have had Harry 
come get 
> > his prophecy and would have been there when it was 'opened' to 
report 
> > what it contained to LV.. Easy as pie and noone would question 
the 
> > presence of Fudge when the prophecy was revealed at all.
> > 
> > Fudge could also have easily arranged for LV to come get the 
prophecy 
> > himself, but he didn't.
> > 
> > Jazmyn
> 
> Then how did the DE's gain entry into the DOM?  And LV was ther 
shortly after Harry, 
> was he also allowed in?  Fudge could not just present Harry with 
the prophecy, it 
> would have raised too many eyebrows and Fudge's cover would have 
been blown.  By 
> having Harry show as he did, Fudge was likely to be done with Harry 
once and for all, 
> and then could openly support LV.  With Harry, the only know 
defense against LV, still 
> running around, Fudge can't pick the winning side, because he 
doesn't know who will 
> win in the end.  And, I think, that is what is keeping Fudge 
hemming and hawing 
> about LV rising again.  Even at the end of OotP, Fudge was still 
reluctant to give in 
> and state that he had risen once again.
> 
> Just my opinion.
> 
> Severus

And how did Nagini, at least I am assuming LV still has Nagini get 
into the MOM, and down to the Dept of Mysteries the night she bit 
Arthur Weasley.
And think about Harry's year at Hogwarts, all along it seems like 
Umbridge is trying to get rid of him either by making him so angry, 
or getting him expelled.  Harry would be alot easier to get to if he 
were away from Hogwarts,
Fran