[HPforGrownups] Re: Time travel

Carolina silmariel at telefonica.net
Tue Aug 26 22:48:34 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 78887

 Melanie:
<< because Hermione could attend 3 classes at once, that experiences 
*must* accrue with time travel in HP. But I was thinking, why must 
this be so? I would argue that, although they might accrue *in 
Hermione's experience*, in reality Hermione is always in the 3 
classes at once ... there are not separate timelines spawned 
here.>>

Trying to explain time lines in English sounds terrible, but here 
goes...

Time travel is a tricky question. Is true Hermione is at tree 
classes at the same time, and no, timelines do not separate. There 
is no reason, Hermione just attend class. But if she were killed 
during a class, you wouldn't expect her to come from the future and 
save herself. She was killed. She could not activate the time 
turner being dead, so other one did, or other one saved her.

What Talisman says (I think) is once something has happened, the 
effects appear. If Hermione goes to two classes and retain all the 
events, Harry has to retain the events of being unable to fight one 
hundred dementors, so getting dementorised. After that, Harry is 
off the story, so someone saved him.

Till here, we manage: one timeline that can be changed (first time, 
Snape saves Harry, second time, Harry saves Harry) with multiple 
H/H instances. Still can be represented with a line.

<<is that Hermione mentions at some 
point in PoA that "wizards have killed their past or future selves" 
when they encountered them due to time travel. Well, if there is 
only one comprehensive timeline, a wizard would be able to kill his 
future self, but not his past self -->>

And this is thick? Time travel and multiple timelines are a hell in 
themselves.

The problem with allowing multiple timelines as a way of explaining 
why someone that should be dead is not, is they tend to split to 
the infinite.

The risk of slipping into multiple realities aka parallel universes 
is too high, and that is really a mess, so I think Hermione is 
misinformed, unless you allow a 'magic static sphere' wich prevents 
the 'vital line' of the mage, or the one changing history, being 
banished :) 

And just imagine if Snape knew H had a time turner...

silmariel

 






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