[HPforGrownups] Re: Time travel
Carolina
silmariel at telefonica.net
Tue Aug 26 22:48:34 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 78887
Melanie:
<< because Hermione could attend 3 classes at once, that experiences
*must* accrue with time travel in HP. But I was thinking, why must
this be so? I would argue that, although they might accrue *in
Hermione's experience*, in reality Hermione is always in the 3
classes at once ... there are not separate timelines spawned
here.>>
Trying to explain time lines in English sounds terrible, but here
goes...
Time travel is a tricky question. Is true Hermione is at tree
classes at the same time, and no, timelines do not separate. There
is no reason, Hermione just attend class. But if she were killed
during a class, you wouldn't expect her to come from the future and
save herself. She was killed. She could not activate the time
turner being dead, so other one did, or other one saved her.
What Talisman says (I think) is once something has happened, the
effects appear. If Hermione goes to two classes and retain all the
events, Harry has to retain the events of being unable to fight one
hundred dementors, so getting dementorised. After that, Harry is
off the story, so someone saved him.
Till here, we manage: one timeline that can be changed (first time,
Snape saves Harry, second time, Harry saves Harry) with multiple
H/H instances. Still can be represented with a line.
<<is that Hermione mentions at some
point in PoA that "wizards have killed their past or future selves"
when they encountered them due to time travel. Well, if there is
only one comprehensive timeline, a wizard would be able to kill his
future self, but not his past self -->>
And this is thick? Time travel and multiple timelines are a hell in
themselves.
The problem with allowing multiple timelines as a way of explaining
why someone that should be dead is not, is they tend to split to
the infinite.
The risk of slipping into multiple realities aka parallel universes
is too high, and that is really a mess, so I think Hermione is
misinformed, unless you allow a 'magic static sphere' wich prevents
the 'vital line' of the mage, or the one changing history, being
banished :)
And just imagine if Snape knew H had a time turner...
silmariel
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