Predicting the future, Trelawney style
KathyK
zanelupin at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 27 06:33:58 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 78931
Okay, I think I've got everybody straight. Apologies for attributing
quotes to the wrong person.
Eli Predicted:
>>>5. Percy: A double agent.
EVIDENCE: Noted to be lurking in the COS Slytherin halls. Didn't
visit his dad in hospital (who does that, I ask you?!).<<<<
And Hickengruendler replied:
>>>He lurked in the Slytherin halls, because he was meeting
Penelope. She was the person Harry and Ron met before Percy. Also, if
Percy would indeed go evil, it will probably be, because he is power
hungry.<<< <snip>
Causing Sherrie to ask:
>>Why would Percy lurk in the SLYTHERIN halls to meet Penelope - a
Ravenclaw & a muggleborn?<<
Eli Responded:
<snip> >I think he was lurking around Slytherin to spy on Slytherin
(and not to meet Penelope ... <snip leaving Percy in CoS movie
without Penelope>. I think the fact that he didn't visit his father
was motivated by a desire to appear more estranged than he is; I just
don't buy that Percy would become so disconnected from his family so
quickly ... In most circumstances, he would visit his
potentially dying father in the hospital.<
Now KathyK throws in:
To start, I think they left in Percy and left out Penelope of the
movie was because the whole Percy has a girlfriend was unnecessary to
the film and was not even mentioned IIRC. Leaving Percy in is
important because with Percy is where Malfoy found them and from
there led them back to the Slytherin Dorm. Plus there's an element
of humor and suspense when movie Percy asks what their names are and
Harry and Ron can't remember who's who. I don't think it has
anything to do with Percy being a spy for Dumbledore.
Harry and Ron were wandering the Dungeons *looking* for the Slytherin
dorm. The Slytherin rooms are not the only thing down there. They
first recognize the dungeons as the place where they see the
Slytherins come from for breakfast. Then they see the Ravenclaw girl
later determined to be Penelope Clearwater leave there. Fifteen
minutes later they encounter Percy coming out a side room. Malfoy
finds them. They leave Percy and turn down the next passage and
shortly stop in front of the stone wall that is the entrance to the
Slytherin dorms. (CoS ch. 12 "The Polyjuice Potion")
and then, on US Paperback 341:
"'It's that Ravenclaw prefect, Penelope Clearwater,' said
Ginny. 'That's who he was writing to all last summer. He's been
meeting her all over the school in secret. I walked in on them
*kissing* in an empty classroom one day.'"
Isn't it most likely that Percy was down there looking for some
private time with his girlfriend? There are other places down there
besides the Slytherin Rooms. Percy could be coming out of a
classroom. And Penelope just left the Dungeons. I think it's more
unbelievable that she just happened to leave right before he did than
it is unbelievable that Percy would be in the Dungeons for any other
reason than spying.
In case you missed it in the oddly worded previous sentence, I don't
think Percy is a spy for Dumbledore. I also don't think he'll turn
out to be evil. I agree with what serious_schwartz says in unrelated
post #78925.
serious_schwartz:
>I reread GoF recently and smirked while reading the part where
Harry, Ron, and Hermione are leaving the cave after meeting with
Sirius. Hermione chastises Ron when he says that Crouch reminds him
of Percy. <snip> She says that Percy would never throw his family to
the dementors. And Ron reacts skeptically, saying that he wasn't so
sure of that... esp. if Percy thought his family was standing in the
way of his career plans. More proof of Percy as the future Fudge? (In
CoS, one of the Weasleys boys says that Percy's goal is to be
Minister of Magic.)<
Percy has shown throughout the books ambition and a desire for
power. He has worked hard all his life to be the best he can. He's
determined to succeed. I think we've seen hints that things would go
the way they did in OOP, such the ones above.
Believing Dumbledore and supporting his family through that year
would have contradicted what we know about Percy. It would have
jeopardized his career at the Ministry, which he takes very seriously.
I don't see how spying for Dumbledore fits in with Percy's lofty
ambitions, either.
So we know already that Percy's thrown in with a wrong side. And he
did it to an extreme. The question now becomes will Percy fall back
into the Weasley fold now that Fudge has been proven wrong, or will
he continue to pursue his career at the expense of the people he
loves? At some point I believe he will realize what he's done. I
hope he realizes it before he does something abysmally stupid to his
family or causes his own demise. So that's my speculation and hope
for Percy.
KathyK (who, as with Fudge being a DE, will only believe Percy is a
spy when JKR says so outright)
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