Re: Where Snape belongs on the family tree
laylalast
liliana at worldonline.nl
Thu Aug 28 13:35:28 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 79062
Funny how people can independently come up with a theory with great
similarities.....Almost magic! <g> I had been making up a theory like
that of evangelina839 but with some differences. I'll explain these
on the way.
evangelina839wrote:
> This will for always be my dear, but sort of silly, little fanfic
speculati=
> on, but I'm still
> going to ruthlessly expose the poor little thing to the public.
I've never =
> seen this
> theory anywhere, so even if someone else has already suggested the
possibil=
> ity, I still
> claim ownership. :)
Lilian:
No problem.
>Evangelina839:
> Here goes: Severus Snape is the son of Lucius Malfoy's =
> sister. I'll explain how it works.
<snip>
Lilian:
My idea is that Snape's mother is the sister of Lucius'father. That
explains the age difference rather neatly. It also makes Lucius and
Severus cousins, which I like better, especially when regarding the
way the two will behave towards each other. In your case is Lucius in
fact the uncle of Severus, which gives a different kind of authority
between the two of them, even if the age difference is rather small.
> Evangelina839:. Alright,
> next:
>
> I believe that Snape is a halfblood, as was suggested on the list a
while back (sorry I can't give credit; I thought I had the number of
the post, but it turned out to be the
> wrong one). Making the safe assumption that the Malfoys are
purebloods, that means that Snape's father was a muggle or a
muggleborn, possibly squib. It fits my theory,
> though, that the man has no magical powers, so disregard the
possiblity of a muggleborn for a minute. I also think it's pretty
safe to assume that the parents of
> Lucius and his sister are not much unlike the Blacks: proud
purebloods, dark arts
> enthusiasts, bigots and racists.
Lilian:
Snape's father can still be a pureblood. My idea is that he is but
from a very poor family, so not in the same class (by a long way) as
the Malfoys. Snape sr. saw a chance of marrying wealth and perhaps
power through Miss Malfoy, but after their marriage (by elopement?)
she was disinherited and disclaimed by the Malfoys. So Snape sr. was
worse of then before as he now also had to provide for his wife and
child which was by then probably on the way. To say at least, not
such a great start for a relationship.
> Snape's childhood memory shows him as the small boy crying in a
corner while his father is shouting at his mother. I, for one, am
sure that Harry's assumption was right
> and Snape is in fact the little boy; if he was the grown man, Harry
would have
> recognised him. That obviously means his parents did not have a
healthy relationship.
Lilian:
If you marry for money and power and end up with less, it's not
unexpected that you shout at your wife. It was all her fault of
course. Nope, no healthy relationship, if ever there was one.
Evangelina83"9:
> Snape addressed Draco Malfoy as "Draco" in his office when Draco
interrupts the Occlumency lesson (the "Snape's worst memory"
chapter). Of course he does, they're cousins!
Lilian:
It's also possible if Draco's father and Snape are cousins, their
familyrelationship is close enough. Especially if you take into mind
that Snape has most contact with LV and the DE's through Lucius.
<snips the events>
Evangelina839:
> Okay. So why is Lucius Malfoy so friendly with Severus Snape today?
I see two possibilites.
> A: Lucius Malfoy is only about six years old when his older
> sister disappears from the family. It's possible he never even
found out what really
> happened to her, let alone her new surname. So if that's the case,
he's not aware of his relationship to Snape.
> B: Lucius and Severus met each other via the Slytherin gang
> or at a DE meeting, Lucius realised that his nephew had the "right
values",=
> and they
> became friends on the basis of common interests.
>
> And that's the theory. Let's call it Lucia. Am I nuts? Let me
know. :)
>
> evangelina, who had to turn her lights back on during AM hours last
night j=
> ust to
> write this down
yawn
Lilian:
No, you're not nuts at all IMO.
I would even like to go a bit further and give Miss Malfoy (now Mrs.
Snape) a first name.... Agnes, perhaps? The lady with her head
covered in fur in St. Mungo's?
Why, you might ask? Well, ever since reading the end of GOF
(especially Snape's sudden movement) I have been wondering if a
close relative of Snape would be in St. Mungo's. Although what we
know of this Agnes is not much to conclude that she is Snape's
mother, still there are a few things.....
1) It would give JKR (or Snape or both) a first rate legitimate
reason to let Snape go to St. Mungo's on a regular basis. The only
difficulty that I have with this is why hasn't Neville ever met him?
Oh well.... But having Snape go to St. Mungo's could tie in with the
continuous incapacity of the Longbottoms.... He is a potion master,
after all.
2) I have no idea how a long-term stay in St. Mungo's is financed but
I can imagine that relatives will have to pay and that is not cheap.
So Lucius Malfoy is paying for his aunt's upkeep, by donating large
sums to St. Mungo's, and Snape is in his debt, in addition to their
familyrelation. Could give another twist to the coming stories.
As additional proof that the upkeep is (partly) paid by relatives I
offer the description of the clothes that Neville's gran wears, which
sounds to me as impovered gentility. Most likely because paying the
St. Mungo's bills is becoming rather difficult.
3) In the Pensieve-scene Snape sees the dog chasing Harry, but Harry
also remembers Hermione while in the hospital with her head covered
in fur. My take is that Snape makes a subconscious connection with
his own mother and therefore makes the otherwise irrelevant question
about who the dog belonged to.
Lilian, who really had to get this out of her system as well,
although she ought to work....
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