Voldemort will win

[jksunflower2002]

No: HPFGUIDX 79063

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "mightymaus75" 
<mpjdekker at h...> wrote:
> 
> Hi, I have a little theory I would like to share...
> 
> I predict that Harry will die, but not willingly in some emotional 
> overly dramatic act of self-sacrifice as so many seem to think. 
> Voldemort will kill Harry, and for a moment at least Voldemort 
will 
> be completely victorious.
> 
> The prophecy states that: "neither can live while the other 
> survives". In Harry's case this makes sense; while Voldemort is 
out 
> there killing the ones he loves and threatening to take over 
Harry's 
> mind, Harry will never be able to live a normal life. But what 
about 
> Voldemort? Why exactly is it that Voldemort can't live while Harry 
is 
> around? What's preventing him from abandoning this whole world 
> domination/immortality thing, moving to a nice warm tropical 
island, 
> and making loads of money of his best selling autobiography 'How I 
> became the Dark Lord'? He could use the tan. The answer I think 
can 
> be found in PS, near the end Dumbledore tells Harry: "He is still 
out 
> there somewhere, perhaps looking for another body to share... *not 
> being truly alive*, he cannot be killed." So what if, in 
Voldemort's 
> case, 'neither can live while the other survives' refers to the 
fact 
> that he at the moment is actually not truly alive? It would then 
be 
> only when Voldemort kills Harry that he becomes truly alive again, 
> and at the same time becomes mortal again.
> 
> The key to all this lies in Harry's scar. In CoS Dumbledore tells 
> Harry that Voldemort unintentionally put a bit of himself in Harry 
> when the Avada Kedavra curse backfired. My guess is that a small 
part 
> of Voldemort's disembodied mind instinctively jumped to the 
nearest 
> living body it could find. (Did Voldemort perhaps unsuccessfully 
try 
> to possess Harry's body?) Harry's scar marks the place where this 
> part of Voldemort's mind dug its way into Harry's head. This 
explains 
> why his scar hurts whenever Voldemort is close by; the separated 
part 
> of Voldemort's mind desperately wants to rejoin with the rest of 
> Voldemort. This also explains why Harry can sometimes feel 
> Voldemort's emotions. When Dumbledore is examining the smoke 
serpent 
> in OotP, this is what he's talking about. The snakes represent the 
> separate parts of the Voldemort's mind, which share a bond but at 
the 
> same time are essentially divided. Both parts of his mind have 
> experienced completely different lives for the past 15 years. When 
> Voldemort then eventually kills Harry the separated part of 
> Voldemort's mind will finally be free to return to Voldemort. And 
it 
> will take with it everything it experienced while it was trapped 
in 
> Harry's body, including the love Harry experienced for the people 
> around him.
> 
> When both parts of his mind are reunited Voldemort will directly 
> experience how much Harry was actually like him: both were 
orphans, 
> both had a very tough childhood being raised by Muggles, both were 
> half-bloods, they even looked alike when they were young. But 
unlike 
> Voldemort, Harry never chose to take revenge on the world, showing 
> Voldemort that it's not the situation we are placed in that 
> determines what we are. It's our choices that define what we truly 
> are. Not only that, Voldemort will also directly experience the 
love 
> Harry felt for the people around him. And it is this love that 
will 
> ultimately make Voldemort human again, and mortal. Because this is 
> Voldemort's great weakness, he cannot feel love or pain. It's 
because 
> of this that he is not truly alive. And it is this that is the 
fate 
> worse then death: living without ever experiencing love... or 
pain. 
> It's worse than death to never be truly alive. Lupin already told 
> Harry this when he told him about the Dementor's kiss in 
> PoA: "...they clamp their jaws upon the mouth of the victim and – 
and 
> suck out his soul" Harry accidentally spat out a bit of his 
> butterbeer. "What – they kill –?" "Oh no," said Lupin. "*Much 
worse 
> than that*. You can exist without your soul, you know, as long as 
> your brain and heart are still working." It's Voldemort's current 
> state of not feeling love and pain that is worse than death.
> 
> So Voldemort can't possibly lose. He cannot be killed as long as 
he 
> is not truly alive, and he cannot live as long as Harry survives. 
> Assuming of course that 'not being truly alive, he cannot be 
killed' 
> was referring to the results of the one or more 'experiments' that 
> caused Voldemort to survive the rebounded Avada Kedavra curse. And 
of 
> course as soon as Voldemort does become mortal he will probably be 
> killed by Neville. Or Wormtail.
> 
> And doesn't this seem like just the devious underhanded kind of 
thing 
> J.K. Rowling would come up with for an ending, making us believe 
for 
> a moment that the Dark Lord actually wins?
> 
> -Maus


This is the best theory I've heard yet.  It makes a great deal of 
sense.  The only small thing I can add to this is that perhaps Harry 
doesn't really have to die.  I've been throwing this out for a while 
now, but I just can't help think that it will play a key role at the 
end of this series, and it may fit here: "..... a sleeping potion so 
powerful it is known as the Draught of Living Death." (chapter 8, 
PS/SS.)  Snape brings it up in Harry's first potion lesson.  Could 
they "trick" that portion of Voldemort's mind into leaving Harry?  

Just tossing it in.

Toad (who just can't see JKR really killing off Harry)