Time Travel

[meltowne]

No: HPFGUIDX 79080

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Stacy Forsythe <deadstop at w...> 
wrote:

>The events as they stand are internally 
> consistent -- there's a second Harry present at 9PM to cast a 
patronus, 
> thus the younger Harry survives the dementor attack and is able to 
use the 
> time turner later to become that second Harry.  There's no need to 
bring in 
> another set of events that was overwritten.

I agree with Stacy.  The reason there is a problem with the 
whole "someone else saved Harry the first time" theory is that the 
person who saved Harry the fist time need a reason to not act the 
second time.  The reason Dumbledore tells them to be careful and 
remain hidden is that to not do so would create a paradox - *older* 
Harry was not seen by *younger* Harry, therefore *Older Harry cannot 
then put himself in a position to be seen - I would even argue that 
if *older* Harry tried to make himself seen, something would prevent 
that from happening.

*Younger* Harry's actions were predicated on him not knowing about 
events that were happening at the same time - his experience of those 
3 hours were vague enough that he could go back and "change" what he 
believes happened.  In reality, he is simply playing 2 roles at the 
same time.  He is able to do what he does as *older* Harry because it 
already happened in the regular timeline.  He has a personal timeline 
where it has also already happened - he just doesn't know it has 
happened.

I'm beginning to wonder if a timeturner played a role in events the 
night Harry's parents died.  Hagrid was around in the morning, and 
told McGonnagle that Dumbledore would be at Privet Drive.  He didn't 
seem to have Harry at that point - maybe he was about to head back to 
retrieve Harry.  This might explain how Hagrid knew where to find 
him; I don't think there had been enough time for so many people to 
have known the hiding place that early.  He couldn't arrive before 
the attack because they already knew about it.  Perhaps they didn't 
know where Harry was (and though LV or someone else might have taken 
him) but knew he would be there right after the attack - perhaps the 
other person some people think was there (whose voice was heard by 
Harry) observed Sirius arrive, and Hagrid leave with Harry on the 
motorcycle.

Melinda