[HPforGrownups] Re:Time-Travel- it's Narrative Function

[Carolina]

No: HPFGUIDX 79099

Laurasia:
> Why is there such a big deal made over `not changing time?' That
> is, If it's a multi-occurring time-line, then changing time is
> the whole point.  

Changing time is too risky. The less you do it, the better.

PoA Chapter 21
`Hermione,' said Harry suddenly, `what if we - we just run in there 
and grab Pettigrew -`
`No!' said Hermion is a terrified whisper. Don't you understand? 
We're breaking of on the most important wizarding laws! Nobody's 
supposed to change time, nobody!'

Here she states events in the timeline can be changed, or so she 
thinks. I think she has been lectured to believe disaster will come 
if time is changed. I expect the same response for Hermione if 
Harry suggests to kill Pettigrew, but this doesn't mean it will be 
devastating for the world to have another dead. 

PoA Chapter 15 `The Quidditch Final'
`Hermione, why didn't you come to Charms?'
`What? Oh no!' Hermione squeaked. `I forgot to go to Charms!'
`But how could you forget?' said Harry. `You were with us till we 
were right outside the classroom!'

<<Once she missed it she couldn't go back and change the way the 
events unfolded.>>

Why would Hermione use the tt when she has been caught? What for? To 
get a class? Even if she had not been lectured, it wouldn't be a 
sensible thing to do. 


>Why is "one of the most important wizarding laws" devoted to 
stopping people changing time? 

Because it can be changed, which is highly messing. You definitely 
don't want people to mess with the timeline. Yes, I say they  
control something powerful and lie to the population about it. Very 
MoMly

>Why are time-tuners even allowed if they change time?

Er... why were the dementors guarding Azkaban when it was so 
blatantly obvious they would side with Voldemort?

I mean, mages can be pretty stupid, as muggles. A time turner is a 
powerful artifact, highly restricted, but DD was in the 
International League of Wizard Bosses, so could have one, and he 
assured himself that Hermione was properly lectured of what she 
could and couldn't do, or what he wanted to think.

> Who cast the Patronus the first time?

Snape.

> Where was s/he the second time? Or, Why didn't s/he try to cast
> the Patronus the second time?

Pretending to be unconscious and he didn't need it, H2 was there to 
cast it.

> How did s/he change their appearance to resemble James Potter?
> Or, How did they make Harry have a `vision' of James Potter over
> the lake>

You know I can't use canon, but I'll try to use a first event 
sequence as simple as I can.

He didn't. The first set doesn't include the vision of James.
Harry loses vision, Snape cast patronus, Harry gets focus again, 
Snape invents the first lie he can, something as 'did you see him, 
Harry, by the lake' 'who' 'no one' and then goes 'unconscios/vague' 
again, as if he where almost unable to move. We reach Howgarts the 
first time.

Snape tells DD, DD goes to speak with H/H and repeats the scene 
adding a single line, to Harry -It may be the trauma, but he thinks 
he saw your parent. Harry now is bound to be at the lake and 
realice it was him who Snape 'saw'. He casts patronus. Snape has 
seen second H2 so will do nothing, he won't reveal himself this 
time.

And there is no need for the 'he saw your parent' line Harry has 
seen himself and will come on his own foot. Zap! Instant seamless 
line with all memories coherent. 

It has to be refined, but it is a good starting point.

> What is the point of  Harry casting the Patronus if he doesn't
> have to?

Snape can't do it overly, he has to pretend he's been defeated by 
tree 3rd years. It would be easy to suspect Pettigrew's scape was 
planned, he couldn't risk it.

> If Harry can change time and suffer no consequences, why not just
> send one version of himself back to use Buckbeak to rescue
> Sirius, and another version of himself to catch Wormtail?

Or why not use a thestral to rescue Sirius.
Because he wasn't good at timeline thinking, and it's easy to lip?
Because he has been lectured on what you can and can't do in time 
travel, and believed explanations? Because he didn't own the 
timeturner, it was Hermione who used it by grace of DD.

Don't ask me why Sirius wasn't saved in an easier manner. Maybe it 
was the means for DD not to get implied (after all, DD has been in 
presence of  witnesses).

> Why not run back into the Time Room at the Department of Mysteries 
> to see if he can't find a suitable time-turner and save Sirius's 
> life?

Because he was in shock and he didn't think about it, I see Harry 
very in character remembering about the tts and just using one. It 
would be suicidal, but very Harry-like.

> Why doesn't Dumbledore go back in time and get rid of Riddle
> while he still can?

For what we know, he could have tried. But when? Do you see him 
murdering Tom Riddle at 16? Later Voldie got lost. 

I think I've rambled enough.

silmariel