Dumbledore's integrity (was Prophecy problems)
susanbones2003
rdas at facstaff.wisc.edu
Sat Aug 30 22:15:38 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 79321
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Kirstini" <kirst_inn at y...>
wrote:
Regarding Dumbledore's ultimate motive:
> He exerts a huge amount of control over the narrative of each book,
> and tends to reveal this control, almost gloatingly, in his annual
> end-of-term interview with Harry. People in this sort of position
> often have to play people like pawns and act ruthlessly, even if
> they're working for a greater good, as I'm sure Dumbledore is.
> (Although not everyone is convinced - another Fantastic Post to
have
> a look at on this topic is Talisman's "Dumbledore is GUILTY!":
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/66983)
> I think it's important to remember that the series seems to be
> increasingly directing our attention towards the fact that no human
> being is infallible, and that human characters are not fixed and
> easily comprehensible. An alternative reading of Dumbledore's
actions
> throughout the books can make him seem astonishingly cold-blooded
at
> times. Listies have debated endlessly the extent of his knowledge
of
> Quirrell's plot in PS, and the moral implications of his complicity
> in Harry's involvement. He's certainly not as closed a book as you
> make him out to be.
>
> Kirstini
> (who, incidentally, would like to point out that Dumbledore keeping
> Trelawny at Hogwarts after her sacking does not in itself prove
that
> she keeps knowledge of her real prophecies in her subconscious.
> Trelawny is one of the other people able to pick the prophecy up
from
> the Dpt of Mysteries.
> However, it has just occurred to me that Harry if Pensieves really
> are objective, Harry may be able to review his memory of the point
> when it broke and actually listen to what Ghosty Sybill has to say.
> And I find that thought oddly comforting.
Me:
Having followed Talisman's trail for a while, I can tell you she has
never asserted that Dumbledore is evil. He is a great wizard who has
to do some very difficult things. If that makes him cold-blooded,
then so be it. But she never doubts his ultimate motives for a moment.
Jennifer
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