Weasley cousin/ShriekingTunnel/Wands,wands,wands/Patronus/Slide/St Mungo
Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)
catlady at wicca.net
Sun Aug 31 20:21:38 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 79383
Uncle Mark wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/79305:
<< I read in a JKR interview that she had planned to introduce a
Weasley Cousin (snip) My guess for a Weasley cousin is a student who
we are told has two wizard parents and lives near Ottery St.
Catchpole.... Luna Lovegood! >>
These interviews:
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/quickquotes/articles/2000/0800-ew-je
nsen.html
<<I had to pull a character. There you go: "the phantom character of
Harry Potter." She was a Weasley cousin [related to Ron Weasley,
Harry's best friend]. She served the same function that Rita Skeeter
[a sleazy investigative journalist] now serves. Rita was always going
to be in the book, but I built her up, because I needed a kind of
conduit for information outside the school. Originally, this girl
fulfilled this purpose.>>
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/quickquotes/articles/2000/1000-schol
astic-chat.htm
<-<Q: You said Ron's cousin was taken out of Book 4, and you
developed Rita Skeeter more after that. Do you still think that it
would have been more fun to keep her? Can you tell me anything about
what she was going to be like?
JKR: Well, maybe I will use her in another book, so I don't want to
talk about her too much. I had never "killed" a character before (in
either sense) until Goblet of Fire, so that made writing the book a
little more stressful!">->
You may be right. The purpose of the Weasley cousin was to transmit
information from inside the school to the outside, and Luna could
have done so by writing letters to her father that he then printed in
THE QUIBBLER, altho' there would have had to be more people who
believe what they read in The QUIBBLER in that alternate Potterverse
than in the OoP Potterverse.
Steve bboy_mn wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/79316 :
<< Prongs/James being much larger, had to enter the room as a man,
and then transform. As far as getting out of the Shack for their
adventures, (snip) the wolf, rat, and the dog wait in the forest for
James to join them as a stag. ...and the adventure begins. >>
I suppose that, once the kids decided that they weren't going to hang
around inside the Shrieking Shack all night, James would have only
had to go far enough along the tunnel to be off the Hogwarts grounds,
and then he could Apparate to their meeting place in the Forbidden
Forest, never going inside the Shack at all. Who thinks that
unregistered Animagi would be too law-biding to Apparate without a
license?
Marianne kiricat Zarleycat wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/79329 :
<< Perhaps there's a black market on Knockturn Alley where, for a
price, one can purchase wands that have been lost or stolen. >>
In CoS, on Diagon Alley, the kids find Percy reading 'Prefects Who
Gained Power' "in a tiny junk shop full of broken wands, lopsided
brass scales, and old cloaks covered in potion stains". Therefore,
one doesn't need Knockturn Alley to buy used wands.
Relatedly, Laura jwcpgh wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/79347 :
<< So if the wand Sirius used in the MoM battle wasn't the one he got
from Ollivander's back when he started school, then it wouldn't have
been the proper fit. >>
I don't believe there is only one wand to fit each wizard (except
maybe a very hard-to-fit wizard like Harry, and probably Ollivander
could make another wand to fit him, now that he knows what wand Harry
needs). I imagine that most wizard kids go into Ollivander and there
are 20 wands (among the 200 in the front room) that would fit them
, and each of those wands would also fit 1000 other people. Like my
feet and my shoe size.
Fred Uloth wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/79339 :
<< He already knows what core, length, and wood type he needs..so he
could order it from Olivander without a problem....except that
Olivander would probably say something like "Yew wood, 9 inches,
unicorn hair core, great for transfiguration...I sold one just like
it to that Sirius Black fellow... >>
I don't think that the shoe size, resonant frequency, or whatever it
is that the wand has that does or doesn't suit the wizard, can be
predicted just from wood type, length, core. Remember, Ollivander's
little speech included 'each wand is unique, just as each unicorn,
phoenix, or dragon is unique'. I suppose that all unicorn's hairs
would work for a particular wizard's willow, unicorn hair, ten
inches ... and possibly a particular phoenix's feather would work
for him if tamed with white pine and eight inches. I also suspect
that not all pieces of the same kind of wood are the same -- trees
are individuals, too.
Joj mom31 wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/79342 :
<< Cho's swan patronus. (snip) Was it to show us that Cho is a
powerful witch or was it just a personality match? (Swans are
beautiful from afar, but not very friendly and even a little
dangerous up close). Was Hermione's otter a clue like Sirius's code
name "snuffles" (snuffed out)? >>
John Granger, who wrote a book about Alchemy and the Rowling oeuvre,
said in his Nimbus 2003 talk that the swan appears at that point in
OoP because the swan is a traditional alchemical symbol (whose
meaning I forget, sorry), and assigning it as Cho's Patronus was just
a way to stick a swan in.
What having a swan for Patronus means within the wizarding world
depends on what the relation between Patronus form and Animagus form
is. I had thought they were different: your Animagus form reflects
your personality and your Patronus form reflects what makes you feel
safe or loved or valuable. Thus, Harry's stag Patronus is because
thinking of his father dying to save him makes him feel loved and
protected, and thinking of how popular and admimred his father was
makes him feel valuable, and the stag represents his father.
But Hermione's otter Patronus is a clue that they might be the same,
so that Harry's Animagus form would be a stag if he became an
Animagus. I don't see Harry's personality being represented by a stag
-- he's more of a leader in OoP (DA) and more competitive or angry,
but Snape's Pensieve reminds us that he's still not like his father,
so shouldn't his representation be different than his father's?
Evidence that Hermione's Animgus form would be an otter comes from
the Scholastic chat, above, and many other places where JKR has said
that Hermione is based on herself as a schoolgirl, and another place
where she answered what animal she would like to turn into.
<-<Q: If you could be a wizard, who would you be?
JKR: If I were a character in the book, I'd probably be Hermione.
She's a lot like me when I was younger. (I wasn't that clever but I
was definitely that annoying at times!) >->
<-<Q: If you were Animagus, what kind of animal would you be?
JKR: I'd like to be an otter - that's my favourite animal. It would
be depressing if I turned out to be a slug or something. >->
<< The way the stairs to the girls dorm turned into a slide. I think
it's a little late in the books to mention something like this unless
it will come into play later. >>
I think that, like naming the deceased members of the Order and
explaining why Hermione isn't in Ravenclaw, was put in OoP to answer
a question that many fans had asked. Presumably the question was:
"How can Hermione visit the boys in their dorm (room) on Christmas?
My boarding school NEVER appears students in a bedroom of the
opposite sex."
Sarah MochaJava wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/79357 :
<< How was Mungo beatified? Who made Mungo into a saint? Does that
mean that wizards in the UK are also Anglican?) >>
St Mungo is a real person, patron saint of Glasgow. His childhood
name was Kentigern, meaing 'one hundredth warrior" and "Mungo"
means something about "dog". I'd give you a URL for more info but my
browser is acting up.
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