time travel revisited

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 86206

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Laura Clapham
<laura_clapham2002 at y...> wrote:
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> ...edited...
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> ... when HH go back in time three hours why do they end up in a
slightly different place to where they were three hours ago?  If they
were really going back three hours wouldn't they appear virtually on
top of their past selves?  

bboy_mn:

Keep in mind that *Time* did not go backwards, two very specific
people went back in time. 

There are several Star Trek episodes as well as movies like 'Groundhog
Day' where time and the universe turn back 24 and that day is played
over again. In that case, where it is time that is reversed,
everything in the universe goes back to the exact spot it was in 24 ago. 

In PoA, time marches ever forward never changing direction. However,
at a specific point in time, two people (Harry & Hermione) arrive from
the future and join the one timeline as it marches forward.

I don't buy into the belief that things happened twice once without
and once with the second Harry and Hermione. I believe it only
happened once, and at one point in time at about 9pm, the second time
traveling Harry and Hermione joined the events. 

So, the time traveling Harry and Hermione arrive in close proximity to
where they need to be in order to do what they need to do. The magic
spell that guides the time travel is somewhat controlled by the
wizard's intend; just as most magic is. Hermione knew where they had
to be to start this event, and her intent took them to the approximate
location of their original selves so that they could follow the events
as they unfolded.

bboy_mn


> princess laura continues:
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>And what would happen if they arrived in a room where there were
other people?  Would this appear to be apparating? This in my mind
also ties in to Hagrid's disappearance at the train station in PS - as
I assume Hagrid never learnt enough magic to apparate, could he have
used a time turner to disappear?
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> princesslaura


bboy_mn:

I think you are right, if a couple of people suddenly appeared out of
nowhere, that would be disturbing to a muggle, but the average wizard
wouldn't give it a second glance since people are suddenly appearing
out of nowhere all the time.

Time travel could explain Hagrid's sudden disappearance at the train
station, but we must ask ourselves, is it likely? Why at that time and
place would Hagrid have any need for time travel, especially since
this is something that is strictly controlled by the Ministry.
Appration or Portkey make far more sense and in my view are far more
likely than time travel.

As far as Hagrid's magical abilities, let's remember that he has had
50 years of experience. True, most of that experience was on the sly,
but he has also had 50 years of access to some of the most talented
and power wizards in the wizard world, the Hogwarts teacher, and he
has had a somewhat closed environment, the school grounds, where
people conviniently look the other way, as well as aid Hargrid in
performing magic.

bboy_mn