Mark Evans - evans, Evans, EVANS

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 86284

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "bluesqueak" <pipdowns at e...> wrote:
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> Steve (Bboy) writes:
> > And just by happenstance, the name Evans is used in reference to 
> > TWO seemingly unrelated people. It's hard to believe that JKR 
> > could use the same name in the critical book in which Lily's 
> > family name is revealed, to refer to two unrelated people. Really 
> > hard to believe.
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> Pip!Squeak:
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> Ah, but the significance of the *name*?
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> JKR could have picked any surname she liked for Lily. Anything. 
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bboy_mn:

No, I don't think so; although, I will admit the possibility.

My guess is that since Lily is a significant character, her name
wasn't 'picked', it was more inspired. When the character Lily came to
JKR, she came with the name Evans (speculation, but very likely), and
later in the story, it's Mark's surname that needs to be picked. 

Knowing the great significants of the Evans name relative to Harry and
Lily, why would she 5 books later give the same name to a seemingly
completely insignificant character, especially when that insignificant
character was introduced in the same book that introduces Lily's
surname. Seems like a very poor and unlikely place for a coincidence.

There is no debate over why she gave Lily the name Evans, the debate
is over why she also gave Mark the name Evans.

And, while I stand by this distinction, I also admit, it's pretty
nitpicky. 


> Pip!Squeak:
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> However -
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> Harry makes no mention that Mark Evans is a relative.
> 
> Dudley doesn't see Mark Evans as a relative.
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> The only relative to visit the Dursley household was a Dursley. 
> (Aunt Marge...)
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> Dumbledore refers to the Dursley's as Harry's only family.
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> Evans is a common name. Most people called Evans probably aren't 
> related.
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bboy_mn:

True, all people with the name Evans aren't related, although, it's
likely that many of them from a common national origin ARE related IF
you go back far enough in their family tree.

Your arguments about the Dursley action and reaction relative to other
members of the Evans family only holds true IF the Evans in question
is a close relation. If the relationship is more than a couple of
generations back, they are essentially 'long lost relatives' and would
therefore have no part in the Dursley's lives.



> Pip!Squeak:
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> JKR is, I think, doing the same thing. Harry wants a family; he is 
> now aware of his mother's maiden name. Is he going to develop an 
> interest in Mark Evans? If Mark Evans does turn up at Hogwarts, 
> isn't he going to be *sure* that Mark is a long lost relative?
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> Pip!Squeak

bboy_mn:

I have no problem at all with this being the significants of Lily and
Mark sharing a common family name. It's possible that once Mark shows
up at school, Harry will make the 'Evans' connection and become
obssessed with trying to find a family connection between Mark and
himself.

I still like the idea of Mark Evans knocking on Harry's door one day
during the summer carrying a letter from Hogwarts requesting that
Harry help Mark go to Diagon Alley and pick up his school supplies,
and help him get aboard the train for school. I can see lots of
hi-jinx coming out of that. But that's just me.

Just a thought.

bboy_mn