The Room of Requirement is the Chamber Pot Room?

[Geoff Bannister]

No: HPFGUIDX 86397

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Marci" <blackgold101 at y...> 
wrote:

Marci:
> It seems that DDs room full of chamber pots and the DAs 'class' 
room 
> are one and the same, the Room of Requirement.  I recently read SS 
> again and wondered if the room where the Mirror of Erised was kept 
> was the ROR.  That was my first thought.  Harry needed a place to 
> hide and suddenly there was a door that was ajar.  However, it was 
> described like a classroom that was no longer used.  My GOF book is 
> on loan so I can't find the part where DD mentions the room and 
where 
> he was when he found it (what floor?).

Geoff:
I don't think there is any indication as to where Dumbledore's room 
was.

"'Oh, I would never dream of assuming I know all Hogwart's secrets, 
Igor,' said Dumbledore amicably. 'Only this morning, for instance, I 
took a wrong turning on the way to the bathroom and found myself in a 
beautifully proportioned room I have never seen before, containing a 
really rather magnificent collection of chamberpots. when I went back 
to investigate more closely, I discovered that the room had vanished. 
But I must keep an eye out for it. Possibly it is only accessible at 
five thirty in the morning. Or it may only appear at the querter 
moon - or when the seeker has en exceptionally full bladder.'
Harry snorted into his plate of goulash. Percy frowned, but Harry 
could have sworn Dumbledore had given him a very small wink."

(GOF "The Yule Ball" p. 363 UK edition)

"'Good,' said Harry quietly, when she told him., 'because we've found 
somewhere to have our first Defence meeting. Tonight, eight o'clock, 
seventh floor opposite that tapestry of Barnabas the Barmy being 
clubbed by those trolls. Can you tell Katie and Alicia?'
She looked slightly taken aback but promisd to tell the others. Harry 
returned hungrily to his sausages and mash. when he looked up to take 
a drink of pumpkin juice, he found Hermione watching him.
'What?' he said thickly.
"Well.... it's just that Dobby's plans aren't always that safe. Don't 
you remember when he lost you all the bones in your arm?'
'This room isn't just some mad idea of Dobby's; Dumbledore knows 
about it too, he mentioned it to me at the Yule Ball.'
Hermione's expression cleared.
'Dumbledore told you about it?'
'Just in passing,'said Harry, shrugging.
'Oh well, that's all right then,'said Hermione briskly and raised no 
mor objections."

(OOTP "Dumbledore's Army" p.344 UK edition)

(Just in passing, Hermione uncharacteristically gets some facts 
wrong. It wasn't Dobby who lost Harry the bones in his arm - it was 
Lockhart)

Regarding the room holding the Mirror of Erised, the general 
description doesn't suggest the Room of Requirement to me...

"Perhaps because it was dark, he didn't recognise where he was at 
all. There was a suit of armour near the kitchens, he knew, but he 
must be five floors above this....

It was a few seconds before he noiced anything about the room he had 
hidden in. It looked like a disused classroom. The dark shapes of 
desks and chairs were piled against the walls....."

(PS "The Mirror of Erised" p.152 UK edition)

...in OOTP he was told to walk past the blank wall three times 
concentrating on their need.

In PS, he finds the door immediately there and ajar. There is no 
reference to the statue, only a suit of armour. The interior of the 
room doesn't suggest that it has transfigured itself to his 
requirements. He hasn't asked for old furniture or even a magic 
mirror that scans his deepest desires.

I would agree that htere is a case that the GOF/OOTP references are 
to the same room but I don't think it covers the room in PS.

I have to saythat I'm not totally convinced that Dumbledore wasn't 
involving Karkaroff in a sublte leg-pull, particularly if he senses 
that Harry was eavesdropping and would appeciate the humour.

Geoff