Snape as a Spy and Spy!Lucius, too!

[Jen Reese]

No: HPFGUIDX 86407

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboy_mn at y...> wrote:
> 
> Snape has kept close ties to the Death Eaters, most notibly Malfoy,
> who escaped Azkaban. If they believe he were truly a spy against
> Voldemort, they surely would not have associcated with the traitor
> Snape, and would have probably done their best to kill him.
> 
> So, the fact that he is still friends with old Death Eaters tells 
me
> that Snape still has good vibes with the Dark Side.
> 
> In GoF, Snape is sent on a mission by Dumbledore; most of us
> speculated that mission was to get back into the good graces of
> Voldemort. This would have been impossible if Voldemort truly 
thought
> Snape was a spy for the good huys. But at the same time, Voldemort 
and
> the Death Eaters know that Snape is friendly with Dumbledore, still
> works at Hogwarts, and still present the appearance of a /reformed/
> Death Eater. 
> 
> The only logical way he can be friendly with both sides, is if both
> side think Snape is a spy on their behalf. 

Jen R: There is another logical explanation, one of my pet theories, 
and it's that Lucius Malfoy is a Spy as well. Now, I'm not saying 
Lucius is a good *person* or that he believes in the Order's cause, 
or even that he is not exactly as he's portrayed--a prejudiced, 
bigoted, power-hungry man. But Lucius being a pseudo double-agent 
would go a long way to explaining a few things.

For one thing, how has Snape convinced Voldemort he is still on the 
side of the DE's? With Lucius's help of course. We have no evidence 
that Snape is friendly with any of the other DE's besides Karkaroff, 
who is no longer 'loyal'. We're pretty sure Snape wasn't at the 
graveyard. His link to Voldemort is through Lucius, LV's "slippery 
friend". 

LV is a shrewd dictator. He is not immune to the fact that Malfoy 
has power in the mainstream WW, has money, has pureblood status--all 
the things LV never had. Malfoy, while he may once have been young 
and idealistic and believed in LV's cause, is now older, wiser and 
more powerful---and he's not going to let some two-bit Evil Overlord 
who's not even pureblood (spits on floor) take anything away from 
him.  

My theory is that Lucius turned spy after the COS incident. Yes, he 
planted the diary, he was all for scaring the 'Mudbloods', perhaps 
bringing some family shame on the Weasleys by using Ginny, and 
closing down Hogwarts, but my guess is he had *no clue* that LV 
could actually return to life through that diary. That fact spooked 
him enough that he decided to work with Snape at least, if not the 
Order in its entirety. 

Who else planted the seed of "obtaining the Prophecy" in LV's ear, 
luring Harry Potter to the MOM, and having LV outed to the WW? Who 
was the one telling all the DE's "not to kill Harry" in the DOM even 
though the other children were expendable in his eyes?  He knows 
Harry is the One, and much as he and Snape despise "Potter", they 
want him to do their dirty business and remove LV for good. Then 
they, or Lucius at least, can get on with the business of running 
the WW in whatever way he can--bribery, under the table deals, etc.

No, Lucius isn't going to take orders from anyone this time around, 
especially a 'half-blood'.