Overturning the prophecy (was Re: Choices)?

[Kristen]

No: HPFGUIDX 86605

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "rach9112000" <RACH911 at a...> 
wrote:
> --- 
> > 
> > Sophierom:
> >  
> > 
>   What if, instead, there were someway that Harry 
> > could cause LV to lose his powers, thereby defeating him without 
> > killing him? Granted, this goes completely against the prophesy, 
> > which clearly states that "either must die at the hand of the 
> other 
> > for neither can live while the other survives" (OOTP, UK ed. 
741). 
> > But, as Iris has suggested, maybe Harry has the power to 
> make "that 
> > blasted prophecy lie" (post #86512). 
> > admit, that's a sort of cheap way out of the whole thing ... any 
> > ideas about ways that Harry could take the high road but still 
> live 
> > in a Voldie free world? Or do you think that Harry must kill LV 
in 
> > order to go on with the rest of his life? 
> 
> 
> Rachel:
>   Just a small note that JKR might have been trying to give a hint 
> in the scene after the prophecy has smashed in OOtP (british 
version 
> pg 814) between DD and Voldie:
> 
> "You do not seek to kill me dumbledore?..." - Voldie
> 
> "We both know that there are other ways of destroying a man, Tom... 
> Merely taking your life would not satisfy me, I admit-" - DD
> 
> "There is nothing worse than death, Dumbledore!" - Voldie.
> 
> "You are quite wrong... Indeed your failure to understand that 
there 
> are things much worse than death has always been you greatest 
> weakness-" - DD.
> 
>   Perhaps JKR is trying to open our minds to an alternative ending 
> for Voldie and Harry other than the death of one of them? Just a 
> thought.
> 
>    Rachel

madeyesgal:

In an earlier post, I (tongue in cheeck) suggested that Harry and LV 
fight it out in the end, Harry disarm LV and in the end a dementor 
administers the "kiss" to Voldmort. With all of the bizarre endings 
being suggested, I thought I'd throw in my two-cents worth. After 
reading your post, I'm beginning to think that my ending isn't so 
bizarre or silly after all. So I'm posing it again:

Suppose this:

Harry and Voldemort are in a duel in the end. Harry is, somehow, able 
to disarm Voldmort. Voldmort calls upon a dementor to "kill" Harry. 
Harry conjurs up a Patronus and defeats the dementor. Frustrated and 
still "hungry" the dementor turns on the defensless Voldemort. Harry, 
watching from the sideline, does nothing to stop the dementor and it 
administers the kiss to Voldemort. Voldemort is left "alive," souless 
and without hope. Couldn't this be what Dumbledore was talking 
about..."there are things much worse than death...?

Voldemort is vanquished; Harry is alive and still has his powers. 
With no more "bad guys" to fight, he can settle down and live his 
life in a normal way (for a wizard that is).

madeyesgal (convinced that Snape will be a hero)