[HPforGrownups] Re: Stereotyping - Point of Exception

Kathryn Cawte kcawte at ntlworld.com
Tue Dec 9 00:52:23 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 86727


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> Mandy here:
> I just wanted to say job well done K, on dealing with all those
> howlers. Especially when most of the time the responses to your posts
> were not read through thoroughly. I thought you stuck to your
> argument very well and I enjoyed reading your responses.
>
> I personally agree with both you and Kneasy. I think we all want to
> impose our own desires on the story to a certain extent, some more
> than others.  I most certainly agree with K, about the lack of pro-
> active females in the first 4 books, HOWEVER, and I think I can
> include K with me when I say, I don't think it is JKR responsibility
> to have to put them in her stories if she doesn't choose to.
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> If I have spoken out of turn K, or misunderstood your pov please
> accept my appologies.
>

K

Thanks, Mandy. Yes that's exactly what I was saying. I would have preferred
to see more well-developed female characters in the first four books - but
JKR isn't obliged to write them. There are a lot of people who would want
Dumbledore to live for all 7 books, but we're not saying JKR has to do that
because that's what we want (in fact I expect him to be dead before the end
of the next book). And I wasn't accusing JKR of being sexist but rather the
WW (and I was wrong it isn't, we just hadn't seen the evidence of that). I
was also a little surprised as being a woman with a daughter I would have
thought JKR might know more about & therefore find it easier to write about
the female of the species. Having said that I tend to write my fic about the
men of HP - but then since I didn't think that the women were particularly
well developed before OoP that may be because I didn't feel I knew the women
well enough to use them as protagonists.

And to whoever (Kneasy? I think) was wondering about why people would be
pleased to see Loopy Luna and evil!Umbridge and psychotic!Bellatrix, well
it's just as sexist to only be able to see women as positive role models as
to see them only as housewives or whatever. It seems women in the WW can do
anything they want - even if what they want to do is go around torturing and
killing people they dislike :)

K

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