In bed with Harry Potter (Re: Sexual Temptaion )

[iris_ft]

No: HPFGUIDX 86756


Eros and Thanatos in the HP series
 Spicy debate, isn't it?

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "jwcpgh" <jwcpgh at y...> wrote:
 
> Laura:
> 
> I love this list!  
> 
> Mandy, your Harry/Bella ship is the darkest one I've seen-but 
> delicious!  There are lots of wild ideas out there but this one 
> could really happen.  I agree that she's got a lot of sexuality 
> about her-she's like the 7 deadly sins all rolled into one 
person.  
> Bella would have to turn the heat down a bit, though, to get to 
> Harry, I think.  She's pretty overwhelming at full strength.  
Still, 
> I have suggested that Harry's vulnerability lies in his desire for 
> relationship, and I bet Bella could play that masterfully.
> 
> I don't see the Sirius issue as a problem.  Literature is full of 
> formerly deadly enemies fatally attrracted to each other.  
> Especially if she can convince our poor gullible Harry that Remus 
> did it...
> 
> Harry to Bella:  Mrs Lestragne, you're trying to seduce me. 
[pause] 
> Aren't you?

The Young Man and Death, isn't it? There's a ballet called like 
that, and it ends very sadly, because the Young Man dies. But I 
agree with you, Bellatrix is an erotic character, precisely because 
she's an image of Death, and because she's dangerous. The tie 
between Eros and Thanatos is a classical topic in art. However, I 
don't know if she would try to seduce Harry, except, maybe, if she 
acts by order of Voldemort, in order to deliver him to the Dark Lord 
or to convert him to the Dark Side (what a nice plot it would give 
if she managed to integrate the Hogwarts staff, why not as a DADA 
teacher
 I need to restrain my imagination before starting writing 
dull fanfictions; furthermore it wouldn't be very original). No, I'd 
rather bet that she had designs on her cousin Sirius, the handsome 
guy that would become one day the head of the Black family. After 
all, that family seemed to act the way the royal families of the 
Ancien Régime used to do (in the Spanish branch of the house of 
Habsburg, for instance, they experimented all the possibilities of 
marriage, besides the father/daughter, mother/son, brother/sister 
options). Would it be too far fetched if we supposed that Bellatrix, 
and why not main part of the family, thought that Sirius would marry 
her in order to keep a pure lineage?
That they were nearly engaged (or engaged since their birth, as it 
was done in the royal families of the Ancien Régime) when he decided 
he had to leave the House of Black?
It could help understand Bellatrix's fierceness while she was 
fighting with Sirius: you know, the old cliché of the resentful 
rejected lover
 

You are right too when you write that "literature is full of deadly 
enemies fatally attracted to each other". Note that I 
sniped "formerly", because in the HP series, the "deadly enemies 
fatally attracted to each other" seem to be
 Harry and Voldemort, 
the two characters that are tied one to the other since the 
beginning, and seem to be doomed to end together.
I'm not saying by this that Harry feels an erotic fascination 
towards Voldemort. I only noticed, while I was reading the books, 
that the way JKR made Voldemort talk to Harry, the way he used the 
verb "to conquer" when he described what had happened in Godric's 
Hollow, was rather particular. And what can we think of the way 
Voldemort "visits" Harry while the boy is in bed? It starts with the 
first dream Harry has when he arrives at Hogwarts. It goes on with 
the Diary: Harry understand how it work, then travels through Tom's 
memories and is seduced by his lies. Where does it happen? In 
Harry's bed. Not to mention the fact that most of the time, Harry is 
asleep in his bed when Voldemort possesses his mind. OK, we can 
object that when he is asleep is when Harry is more vulnerable; it 
doesn't matter, it happens while he is in bed
Why? I don't know, but 
Voldemort's obsession towards the Boy Who Lived has very strange 
accents.
And I won't try to comment the sequences when Lupin or Sirius put, 
or don't put,  their hand on Harry's shoulder. Harry, cet obscur 
objet du désir


Amicalement,

Iris